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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @MichaelUhrig2 @CColose

      Not good enough. Dismantling oppressive systems in society is what liberals do but the significant thing is whether they are systems which need dismantling and how they go about doing that. Feudalism, slavery patriarchy, theocracy - all great ones to dismantle.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @MichaelUhrig2 @CColose

      When it comes to Marxism vs postmodernism, we have a very different mentality and we see this on the level of epistemology. We have being straightforwardly wrong whilst believing in objective truth and science (Marxism) vs believing there is no right and wrong and not (PoMo)

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @MichaelUhrig2 @CColose

      We can't call everything which sees oppressed and oppressor classes 'Marxism' just because they saw it in social class. I am going to write a thing which honestly acknowledges that PoMo stepped into the place of Marxism, fulfils same moral foundations & uses some of its ideas.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @MichaelUhrig2 @CColose

      But we have to look at postmodernism and related SocJus as it really is - understand the epistemology & politics underlying it, recognise that it has abandoned class issues & the working class and taken the left into bourgeois academic elitism.

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    5. James Oakes‏ @thatsjoakes Jan 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @MichaelUhrig2 @CColose

      But Marxism abandoned class issues too. That's what cultural Marxism means.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @thatsjoakes @MichaelUhrig2 @CColose

      Huh? Then how is it Marxism?

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    7. James Oakes‏ @thatsjoakes Jan 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @MichaelUhrig2 @CColose

      It's still revolutionary. It just no longer sees class difference as the instrument of revolution.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @thatsjoakes @MichaelUhrig2 @CColose

      Yes. The revolutionary aspect has moved on from class issues (Marxism) to identity & language issues (postmodernism)

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @thatsjoakes and

      'Marxism' is not synonymous with 'dismantling perceived structural oppression' or with 'revolution'. That drive can be targeted at anything from slavery to patriarchy to feudalism to theocracy to liberalism. Marxism did it with class.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @thatsjoakes and

      If Marxism abandons class issues, it's not Marxism. In the same way, if feminism abandoned women's rights, it just wouldn't be feminism. And if vegetarians start eating meat, they're no longer vegetarians. This isn't a no true scotsman. Those words mean something.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @thatsjoakes and

      You can make perfectly reasonable and well-evidenced arguments that a movement or political position which used to focus on one thing then began focusing on something else whilst retaining its ethos but this is different to saying it still is that thing.

      5:26 PM - 23 Jan 2018
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