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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @ConceptualJames @GodDoesnt and

      Failing that, they could read my thing about how your approach differs from angry anti-theism. http://helenpluckroseblogs.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/the-conflicting-approaches-of-david.html …

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    2. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

      I appreciate your effort here to temper atheist indignation but it seems to me it has been institutionalised faith that’s been callng the shots regarding the identity of the unbeliever. It is the responsibility of the faithful to defend their doctrine & not the other way around.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

      I'm not sure how that relates.

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    4. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

      Perhaps I misread your blogpost. I had the impression you were discussing the dialectic between religionists & atheists & how both succumb to a tribally identified dogma.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

      Not remotely, no.

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    6. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

      Not remotely?

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

      You can read it and discover it's a comparison of two different arguments about atheism and dealing with religion in society by atheists or you can not. Your call.

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    8. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

      Right. And your conclusion seemed to accept the argument from the side that seemed to say, from my reading, that the atheist owes the religionist a fair hearing of their beliefs. An argument I hear all the time & do not support. Just saying.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

      That isn't even close to the argument. Nor did I say anything which could give that impression.

      6:34 AM - 20 Jan 2018
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        2. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

          The argument that we need to have a better grasp of the psychological basis for the religionist’s faith is well & good but some of us, in the laity, are tired of making the effort & don’t see why we shouldn’t enjoy the same glib & overweening sense of self-identified purpose.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
          Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

          Same as with all social justice issues. Depends if you want to actually address inequalities strategically and reasonably or if you want to form a tribe and shriek at your oppressors.

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        4. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

          There are legions of secular defenders of the legacy of religious institutions. Whether Peterson on Christianity or regressives on Islam. Again, religion gets de facto forgiveness while an assertive unbeliever is denigrated as a matter of course by institutional representatives

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
          Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

          Both authors agree that religion has undue social privilege. They differ on how to address this & decrease its influence and grip on people. I really don't know what you're arguing against but it doesn't seem to be either of them. Shall we leave it?

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        6. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

          Certainly. Let me just give one more try. I thought you were too sympathetic to Lindsay’s thesis to the detriment of the unbeliever posistion in the polemic between religionist & secularist. That was all I meant to address. I’m defensive in support of unbelief.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
          Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

          OK, but you haven't said why you think Silverman's approach will help reduce religious privilege and Lindsay's won't. That is the key issue here. My piece was an argument for why I think differently.

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        8. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

          Open discourse is the solution to moving antiquated ideologies out of the role of institutional authority. It’s not about eradicatiing spiritual aesthetic. Its fine to understand the pyschology behind motive from a clinical role but religious doctrine is too frail to protect

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
          Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

          But neither is arguing for protecting religious doctrine. I really am going to leave it here now.

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        2. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

          But I guess this is the wrong impression despite having read your piece. I understand I’m coming from outside the realm of academia, a realm of collective institutional prestige not unlike religion in certain respects. Thanks for engaging anyway. Just a technical observation.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
          Replying to @ShineboxHukster @GodDoesnt and

          It's not remotely academic. Both books are popular, easy-to-read texts aimed at the average person.

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