Unfortunately liberalism is the only one of the applied societal structures that has worked, but I believe the far left to be the inevitable symptom of it. Hey, I might be wrong. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
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I'm referring to myself only in my layman remark.
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OK, but then there's not much to say. You have chosen not to participate and can focus on something else whilst other people try to sort out society. Conversation over. We can talk about puppies.
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I think the clear issue with Western culture/ society is that the foundation was scooped out without any foundational replacement. Yes, I mean Christianity. I believe that has caused a situation where ethics/ morality is not agreed upon. 1/
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Which is not to say everyone in Western society must be Christan. Nor am I claiming Western morality is based solely in Christianity but it does come to us through Christianity. I see no inherent problems with true liberalism, and I fully believe in it in the strictest sense. 2/
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As in, freedom of the individual. Having lost our foundation of our morality the vacuum has created a society that is drifting in a sea of chaos. Unmoored from itself. We need a foundational identity and ideals to stand on and to stand for. 3/
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OK but we got many of our core values by pushing back at Christianity. Also our moral foundations are pretty consistent. I think we are more unified in our core values than we seem because we're in the current situation and can see all the details which we can't for history.
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Okay, I'm gonna get into the weeds a bit but if you will indulge me for a moment. Is it that we got many of our moral values by pushing back at Christianity or that we pushed back against the Christian authorities to apply the moral values of Christianity more correctly? 1/
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I don't know but I think it's a valid question. I am definitely not advocating that we must all be Christian and I am very very much against any church/ state marriage in even the slightest. Christianity is sort of beside the point I want to actually bring up. 2/
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Again, sorry for the long winded reply. The main question I have for an atheistic morality does it sell universally or is it culturally specific?
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There is always a culturally specific nature to morality, atheistic or theistic.
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