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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 20
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure @HPluckrose

      Unfortunately liberalism is the only one of the applied societal structures that has worked, but I believe the far left to be the inevitable symptom of it. Hey, I might be wrong. I just don't know what to believe anymore.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure

      Also the corrective tho.

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    3. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      What is specifically?

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure

      Equal opportunities, freedom of belief and expression, the dignity and rights of the individual regardless of race/gender/sexuality, science, reason, the aim for progress.

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    5. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I agree with all of that on paper, but application of those principles seems to be tricky because, as we have seen, rights can be weaponised and equality often gets mistaken with equity.

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    6. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 20
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure @HPluckrose

      If we can't agree on the turf upon which to play the game of life, how can we apply rules without inevitably including multiple exceptions?

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure

      We just have to keep working at it. The option to all agree isn't available.

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    8. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Like I said, I'm not an optimist. Lol

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure

      Then be a realist. If we don't try to reach ethical agreement, we won't. If we do try, we'll get as close as we can.

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    10. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I don't believe the two to be mutually exclusive. It feels like opting out of participating in the process is the safest way for the layman.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure

      OK but then we'd all be hunter-gatherers, dying in childbirth and from tooth problems and killing each other in tribal warfare.

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        2. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I'm referring to myself only in my layman remark.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
          Replying to @AnglerFishLure

          OK, but then there's not much to say. You have chosen not to participate and can focus on something else whilst other people try to sort out society. Conversation over. We can talk about puppies.

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        4. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose

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        2. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure

          I think the clear issue with Western culture/ society is that the foundation was scooped out without any foundational replacement. Yes, I mean Christianity. I believe that has caused a situation where ethics/ morality is not agreed upon. 1/

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        3. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Jan 20
          Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure

          Which is not to say everyone in Western society must be Christan. Nor am I claiming Western morality is based solely in Christianity but it does come to us through Christianity. I see no inherent problems with true liberalism, and I fully believe in it in the strictest sense. 2/

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        4. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Jan 20
          Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure

          As in, freedom of the individual. Having lost our foundation of our morality the vacuum has created a society that is drifting in a sea of chaos. Unmoored from itself. We need a foundational identity and ideals to stand on and to stand for. 3/

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
          Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @AnglerFishLure

          OK but we got many of our core values by pushing back at Christianity. Also our moral foundations are pretty consistent. I think we are more unified in our core values than we seem because we're in the current situation and can see all the details which we can't for history.

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        6. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Jan 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure

          Okay, I'm gonna get into the weeds a bit but if you will indulge me for a moment. Is it that we got many of our moral values by pushing back at Christianity or that we pushed back against the Christian authorities to apply the moral values of Christianity more correctly? 1/

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        7. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Jan 20
          Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure

          I don't know but I think it's a valid question. I am definitely not advocating that we must all be Christian and I am very very much against any church/ state marriage in even the slightest. Christianity is sort of beside the point I want to actually bring up. 2/

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        8. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Jan 20
          Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure

          Again, sorry for the long winded reply. The main question I have for an atheistic morality does it sell universally or is it culturally specific?

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 20
          Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @AnglerFishLure

          There is always a culturally specific nature to morality, atheistic or theistic.

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