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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 18

      People who say they don't care what others think of them are a) Speaking of specific groups of people they don't want to impress, b) highly neurologically atypical or mentally ill, c) lying to present a certain image thus caring what people think of them.

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    2. Tris Mamone  🌹‏ @tmamone Jan 19
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      #1 is definitely true for me. I care if I say something derogatory towards marginalized people, but I don’t care if I upset an MRA for hurting his feelings.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 19
      Replying to @tmamone

      Me too. People often worry that I am upset by a barrage of abuse from extremists of various kinds but I am not. Losing the good opinion of someone who values human rights, gender/racial/LGBT equality, universal liberalism is very painful tho.

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        2. Aikanek‏ @Aikanek1 Jan 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose @tmamone

          I mean shouldn't we care about groups we dislike. I mean from my view the are ideologically possessed or just wrong in their beliefs. We should treat them with the utmost empathy if we have a chance in hell of swaying their opinion. I know I would want the same.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 19
          Replying to @Aikanek1 @tmamone

          Yes, we can care about them. This doesn't mean we have to care what they think of us. If someone hates me for being a woman, an atheist, a liberal whatever, I cannot feel hurt be this coz I'm confident in being all those things. Can still try to help them.

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        4. LoveThoseKnicks‏ @lovethoseknicks Jan 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Aikanek1 @tmamone

          You do realize that some people are very confident in views you oppose, have empathy for people like you, and don’t care what YOU think of them?

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 19
          Replying to @lovethoseknicks @Aikanek1 @tmamone

          Yes, of course. I'm not claiming this is unique to me. I think it's near universal. That was my point.

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        6. Aikanek‏ @Aikanek1 Jan 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose @lovethoseknicks @tmamone

          I believe we MUST care about what they think of us. How someone views you is highly dependent on how much they trust the information coming out of your mouth. The majority of my job as therapist is getting my students to see me in a trusting light, so beliefs can be altered.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 19
          Replying to @Aikanek1 @lovethoseknicks @tmamone

          You are missing the point. I cannot bring myself to feel ashamed of being a woman, a liberal or an atheist. Accusations of being any of these things cannot hurt me. I will seek to establish trust on other levels which don't require pretending not to be any of those.

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        8. Aikanek‏ @Aikanek1 Jan 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose @lovethoseknicks @tmamone

          Fair point, I think I read the comment as we should not care at all what these people think, rather than not allowing their opinions to harm us. I completely agree with you on that point, the amount of times a student has cursed me out, and I just smile back.

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