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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 16

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      Well, no. Then you'd have to keep getting married and divorced unless you only wanted to have sex with one person for your entire life. I think most women would prefer unwanted advances that having that expectation on them. You know, because of the wanted ones. https://twitter.com/YeyoZa/status/953266858337144832 …

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 16

      LOL. no. Women all over the western world are saying no to both lunch and sex quite unexceptionally. It's accepted as quite normal not to want to socialise with all women or have sex with all men.pic.twitter.com/B5vCjK1Cq3

      An excerpt from the article 'Policing Sexual Desire' which argues that the default is now 'yes' to premarital sex.
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 16

          This sounds more like a certain take on social networking. Which is fine if she's weighed up pros & cons & decided. However, I'm sure there are girls she doesn't have lunch with and men she doesn't have sex with. It will just be those she wants connections with.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 16

          And it's a bit presumptuous to think the sex obligation needs fixing by restoring norms of no premarital sex if she sees it as the same as a boring lunch. No suggestion of setting up norms of no lunch to save her from making that decision to avoid awkwardness.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 16

          Whilst it is probably true that premarital sex becoming unexceptional leads to women who don't want to have it finding themselves asked to explain it more than when it was assumed good girls didn't, the solution is not to return to this understanding of morality.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 16

          Women do have agency. They can explain things. Or decline to explain things and just state wishes. If this means that they lose a connection, it probably wasn't worth keeping. If they think sex is a fair enough price to pay for keeping it, they can decide that too.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 16
          Replying to @notesneverwhere

          Yes, it's not happening tho. Studies show time and time again that women offered casual sex nearly always says no whilst men usually say yes. Men know this. They don't just walk up to women and ask them for sex. They know there are rules to follow.

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        3. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes Jan 17
          Replying to @HPluckrose @notesneverwhere

          It's not the norm, but so many women making the same complaints seem to indicate it's common enough to be a problem. It would be interesting to see if it was as much of a problem when the norm wasn't to have premarital sex. There were different problems then of course.

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        4. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes Jan 17
          Replying to @MillenarianWoes @HPluckrose @notesneverwhere

          Didn't read her article as advocating no sex before marriage anyway? Not sure what's going on

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        1. Si  🚴🏻‏ @Si_Copath Jan 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          This has got to be parody...right? 🙄

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