And many millions of people on this planet don't have access to any of these things - but they can teach us advanced liberals incredible stuff that we've lost. Family, community, obligations, social ties, in a word - wisdom.
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Replying to @Counteredlogos
Quite possibly but this seems to be a different matter again. Perhaps we could have those things (provided we want them) and not die in childbirth.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Not dying in childbirth is something a humane person should want available for all (modernity hasn't managed that yet, but yes, it's come closest). Nonetheless, are we really that great? We're quite good at things like depression, eating disorders, addiction, violence, etc
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Replying to @Counteredlogos
Pretty great, yes. We don't know how much depression, and eating disorder there was in times past coz society didn't recognise it. Addiction is as new as the things to be addicted to. Violence is at an all time low. Would you like to have lived in medieval times?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Yes and no. I don't buy the idea that these maladies are as old as the hills, but we're never gonna settle that on Twitter. Addiction in the Ancient World, yes - opoid *epidemics*, no. The violence statistics are also a minefield.
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Replying to @Counteredlogos
Well no, limited opioids. You think depression is new? Maybe, to some extent. People had to keep going in the past and that helps. Sympathy for sufferers is quite new. Violence has clearly decreased tho. See Pinker.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I meant epidemics - limited epidemics, but I really don't think we can settle any of these examples on Twitter
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Replying to @Counteredlogos
Epidemics of what. I find I'm not getting your point.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Drug use. I accept there are drunkards around in Greek myths and medieval tales, but not massive epidemics of addiction.
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Replying to @Counteredlogos
I don't know enough about this period to say but it seems likely more drugs are in existence and accessible now.
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Goodnight, Jacob. Thanks for the chat.
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