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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Quillette

      Very interesting piece. However, I do not say that we need to go backwards and in fact, addressed that accusation in the piece cited when I argue that the modern project & liberalism is inherently progressive. https://areomagazine.com/2017/12/08/the-problem-with-truth-and-reason-in-a-post-truth-society/ …https://twitter.com/QuilletteM/status/951445892480909315 …

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      Quillette @QuilletteM
      Immanuel Kant Against Elitism | @Counteredlogos http://quillette.com/2018/01/11/immanuel-kant-elitism/ …
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12

      Nor did I say that good practical reasoning requires intellectual sophistication. I cited Jonathan Haidt to say that this and intelligence just makes the rationalising of flawed intuitions more sophisticated.

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    3. Jacob Phillips‏ @Counteredlogos Jan 12
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I don't think I accused you of that, but I suggested the term 'premodern' implies 'less well developed' etc

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12
      Replying to @Counteredlogos

      That's right, yes. We spent quite a lot of words explaining why. Have you seen James Taylor, the theologian who says postmodernism can take Christianity back to a pro-government state?

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    5. Jacob Phillips‏ @Counteredlogos Jan 12
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I haven't, but I've heard similar ideas, and I know plenty of theologians (left and right) who are thrilled at the prospect (I'm not)...

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12
      Replying to @Counteredlogos

      Good. You won't be a pre-modern then. You don't want to get rid of science, liberal democracy etc

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    7. Jacob Phillips‏ @Counteredlogos Jan 12
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Well, my view is that nothing's gonna undo science other than science itself (so no, and I don't believe theologians who say otherwise). On liberal democracy I'm more, um, explorative

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12
      Replying to @Counteredlogos

      Science as knowledge will survive. Science as an institution is threatened in different ways by the far-right and far-left.

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    9. Jacob Phillips‏ @Counteredlogos Jan 12
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      But Newtonian physics hasn't survived. Science undid it.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12
      Replying to @Counteredlogos

      Yes, science is self-correcting. It holds that knowledge is always provisional and tries to falsify findings to weed out error.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Counteredlogos

      Science survives. The knowledge it produces is provisional, constantly corrected & updated.

      3:23 PM - 12 Jan 2018
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        2. Jacob Phillips‏ @Counteredlogos Jan 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          But content changes method, they develop together

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12
          Replying to @Counteredlogos

          Yes.

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        4. Jacob Phillips‏ @Counteredlogos Jan 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So what endures? Commitment to truth?

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12
          Replying to @Counteredlogos

          Knowledge seeking by testing, falsifying, replicating. We have gained considerable scientific knowledge though methods change and things once thought true are refuted. In fact, that's how we have gained things like aeroplanes, computers & antibiotics.

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        6. Jacob Phillips‏ @Counteredlogos Jan 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Of course. But I'm fascinated by accounts of scientists discovering things which undermine even the classical inductive method, but that's not to say I think we can revert to before Francis Bacon or that I'm dismissing the whole enterprise.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 12
          Replying to @Counteredlogos

          I have no reason to think you are.

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