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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Jared‏ @JaredThomasW Jan 10
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose @harari_yuval

      Yes I mean ‘because your way the brain produces the choice’.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 10
      Replying to @JaredThomasW @Intrinsic29 @harari_yuval

      See, he's good at this. Yes. I choose to write essays on politics. I couldn't choose to be able to write or enjoy writing or be interested in politics or be motivated to put all these things together or a number of other things essential to this 'choice' actually happening.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose @JaredThomasW and

      For me, which may be where Jared got the 'better to act as tho we do' thing, knowing we don't have free will when we break it down like this is much like knowing all knowledge is provisional. Something that should be known and acknowledged but don't get stuck there.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Jan 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose @JaredThomasW @harari_yuval

      Yeah, the only important implication of our lack of LFW, imo, is the fact that we don't ultimately choose our *intrinsic* traits and values so the state of those ultimately boils down to pure luck. This pulls out the rug for intuitions regarding just deserts and retribution imo.

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    5. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Jan 10
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose and

      When you see someone who you'd normally despise, even for very good reason, it's sobering and profound, imo, to realize that you're merely lucky to not have the requisite prior traits and values, coupled with the right (or wrong) life experiences to have turned out the same way.

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    6. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Jan 10
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose and

      Similarly, when you fuck up and do something wrong, it can be extremely therapeutic to realize that your intrinsic shortcomings are also ultimately luck-based and you can only do so much to mitigate them. All in all, I think these realizations dramatically decrease suffering.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Jared‏ @JaredThomasW Jan 10
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose @harari_yuval

      Yes. I think I was just initially curious as to @harari_yuval ‘s assertion that a lack of free will undermines liberalism. Though it now seems he has misunderstood liberalism.

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    8. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Jan 10
      Replying to @JaredThomasW @HPluckrose @harari_yuval

      I'm guessing he may have misunderstood (or been referring to a different interpretation of) lfw.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 10
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @JaredThomasW @harari_yuval

      People have tried to argue this to me before saying that liberalism depends on the individual and individual liberty which depends on free will. It seems to be a thing. I find it tedious and point missy.

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    10. Saloni  🎃‏ @salonium Jan 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      There's a large chunk of a chapter dedicated to the moral relevance of free will in the blank slate that I think makes sense.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 10
      Replying to @salonium @Intrinsic29 and

      Ooh, I don't remember. Pinker is probably the one person I could bear to read on the subject.

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