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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Ok. Now I understand you better. I do not think (at all) that this is tedious. And I think that it is a bit delusory to expect science to bring answers (what exactly could it bring that would help in thah debate?). Ok for a modus vivendi, this should not prevent questionning ...

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel

      It will help us to know why some people are trans. You can question other things if you want.

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    3. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Of course and it will be very interesting. I just don’t expect that it will bring an answer to the question of: is « feeling » enough for « being »? Which is actually the question at the core of all this.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel

      Well, science will tell us the being. What aspects of us make up gender. So far, we have only gone on what can be seen with eyes - reproductive systems. Now we know that brains and hormones and genetics are also involved.

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    5. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      We already know all this. At least that this is possible. And by the way, DNA is not exactly « visible ». Plus it is striking that the transitioning is only about the « visible » and actually, the whole gender stuff as a social construction is too.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel

      I said reproductive systems are visible and that's what we have gone by. We can now see if chromosomes say the same thing as it. But I don't care about these arguments. If you're happy to just leave people alone to do their own thing, I;m happy.

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    7. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I don’t really disagree on the « let people do what they want » as long as it is reciprocal. It is an utopy, but why not? Still, as ideas matter (and cannot be adressed without meaningful words), I will continue to ask my question. Who knows, one day I might receive ans answer...

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel

      You'll receive lots of answers. There is no shortage of answers and well-developed rationales to the questions 'What is a woman?' and 'Is feeling like a woman the same as being a woman?'

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    9. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Ok. I must have discussed with the wrong people so far ... Answers I received were all the same eventually, you know: this is tedious :)

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel

      Really?! The radfems say a woman is an adult female human and base this on reproductive systems. The social conservatives are very similar. The trans activists say woman is a self-identification,

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose @BobFitzmarcel

      The radfems say the trans activists are delusional because they think someone with a penis can be a woman and the trans activists say the radfems are misogynistic because they don't accept trans women. Neither of them recognise each other's definitions.

      7:09 AM - 8 Jan 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BobFitzmarcel

          They don't find it tedious. They go on and one for ever about it. Many of the rest of us find it tedious and wish they'd shut up. Meanwhile science finds a number of differences differentiate the sexes and that trans people often have ones more like the other sex to their gonads

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        3. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          1/ In the meantime I was in a plane - not the best place to tweet :) what you say is exactly why I do not think science will be of great help (although it will certainly bring interesting findings). We will learn for sure, but there is also the whole lot of what we know.

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        4. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
          Replying to @BobFitzmarcel @HPluckrose

          2/ and this includes that fact: trans people have plenty of fundamental characteristics of their «genital» sex. Hence they will never be fully their perceived sex. Even though we find that they also share some of its characteristics. They are ... trans. Somewhere in between.

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