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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted tetrarchangel [shares tweet beefs w/ home group]

      To let trans people do what they want, manage some practical issues ethically, go with the science as it comes in & treat people as individuals. No wonder you're traumatised...https://twitter.com/tetrarchangel/status/950334944601092096 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      tetrarchangel [shares tweet beefs w/ home group] @tetrarchangel
      Replying to @C_loureiroi @SocietalCanary and 4 others
      As a social constructionist I don't believe in objectivity, but this sort of article doesn't even approach shared subjectivity - it has a clear and distressing political agenda.
      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    2. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      1/ By the way, I read your paper with interest. Still, I am not entirely convinced. Personally, I never doubted that being trans can have a biological origin. But it is then strange to use biology in order to dismiss biology.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel @HPluckrose

      2/ I mean: the biology of the brain is not the only one that matters. You are not « a woman » simply because some characteristics of your brain are in-between those of men and women.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel @HPluckrose

      3/ In fact, all this boils down to what the meaning of the words are. I never had a convincing answer when I tried to ask Trans activist: when you claim to be a woman, could you define what « woman » means?

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    5. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel @HPluckrose

      4/ Saying it is a purely social construction is obviously absurd because there wouldn’t be « genders » if there were not « sexes » to begin with. Moreover, what’s more « woman » from a social point of view than to give birth?

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    6. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel @HPluckrose

      5/ But trans people identifying as men will say things like: I am a man who gave birth. You quickly understand that under that perspective, anything « constraining » is excluded. But then, the word is simply void of any meaning.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel

      Never mind.

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    8. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      ?

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel

      I don't care much about the definition of 'woman.' As I said, my plan is to let trans people do their own thing, work out some solutions to practical complications and watch the science as it comes in.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Jan 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      And I did not make you any reproach. I agree with most of what you say except that, maybe wrongly, I had the impression that you were implicitly accepting the Trans narrative: I « am » what I « feel ». What I think is questionable. Hence I questioned ...

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 8
      Replying to @BobFitzmarcel

      It doesn't matter. I accept trans identity, yes, for the reasons I've given. You don't have to.

      5:57 AM - 8 Jan 2018
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