There's definitely a two fronts in the war for truth. Do you think objective truth exists? And if so, can we apprehend it was humans?
Yes, but it's humans who have this morality. Other conscious animals on this planet don't. It's quite possible that life elsewhere does not and that AIs would not. Therefore, not universal. Human.
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There might be life somewhere with a fuller understanding of morality than us. Increase wellbeing and avoid suffering is very basic. If we get to a stage where we have achieved that, we might go further too.
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Yes and a society in which conscious beings had evolved without suffering or pleasure in the sense that we know them could exist and would found its morality differently if it had one. I remember thinking this when reading about the possibility of a metal based lifeform.
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But not necessarily in a way we understand. But I am not keen on such speculation and should be restructuring an essay.
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Likewise! :) Thank you both for the chat. Please admire my self-discipline as I leave it and do work! XD
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Some animals do have some sense of morality, but that's beside the point. It seems to me that suffering and wellbeing are subjective states. Once you grant the premise that that's what we mean by morality, then there are objective answers as to how we can acquire wellbeing.
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They do. They just don't have ours or the ability to think it through. But yes, I think that is the important thing. Stop worrying about whether it is objective. Accept that its a human consensus and work things out objectively from there.
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Yes, we are related. It's bound to be that way. Social mammals thrive best this way.
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Though they can't articulate it to us, other animals can suffer and feel wellbeing. And there are truths that they might not be able to know, in any way other than instinctual, about how they can avoid suffering and move toward wellbeing. I'm happy to be talking with you Helen!!
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Indeed. I have always been interested in dog 'morality.' The way they approach each other to signal non-aggression. The rules of play. The expectation to bow in apology if they hurt another. To share, to comfort, to defend. The glares if this is broken indicate morality.
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