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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 2

    At the Battle of Ideas, I was told that to reject postmodernism was to reject thinking. I think it is the other way round. To accept postmodernism is to reject any responsibility for coherent, rigorous, evidenced thinking and just blather meaninglessly.

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      2. Mike Pem-oooOOOOooo-lis‏ @Alt_Trotskyist Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Postmodernism isn't a coherent ideology, though. It's like saying you reject romanticism.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 2
        Replying to @Alt_Trotskyist

        It was its relationship with truth that we were discussing.

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      4. Mike Pem-oooOOOOooo-lis‏ @Alt_Trotskyist Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Fair enough, but I think some postmodernist art is valuable.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 2
        Replying to @Alt_Trotskyist

        Not talking about art. Art is neutral. I'm going to write a thing on this soon. What people are criticising when they criticise postmodernism in a political context.

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      6. Mike Pem-oooOOOOooo-lis‏ @Alt_Trotskyist Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Please do. Maybe I'm a little dense, but I find postmodernism to be a really vague term that brings together people like Foucault and Pynchon and John Cage who otherwise would have nothing in common.

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      2. Bork Bork Bork Bork‏ @jonbmetz Jan 3
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        As a total aside, your tweets make me wish I paid better attention in art history class.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 3
        Replying to @jonbmetz

        I don't know very much about art history!

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 3
        Replying to @BellisPerennis0 @jonbmetz

        I have it but have not read it. I'll have to get around to it.

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      6. Bork Bork Bork Bork‏ @jonbmetz Jan 3
        Replying to @HPluckrose @BellisPerennis0

        In art school everyone was busy with their own 'style', which seemed to mirror postmodernism. I took the Odd Nerdrum approach and ended up reading a bunch of different philosophies, failing to adopt an individual movement. My political philosophy seems to be born from Wabi Sabi.

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      7. Bork Bork Bork Bork‏ @jonbmetz Jan 3
        Replying to @jonbmetz @HPluckrose @BellisPerennis0

        But I'll write that down to read it. Even if I disagree with it, it's important to me to learn opposing ideas to make my own understanding more valuable and complete. And there's always a chance I might learn something I didn't know, which will make for better conversations.

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      2. the real chris beck‏ @SubBeck Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Absolutely, like many french things.

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      3. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jan 3
        Replying to @SubBeck @HPluckrose

        Rubbish! You anglo-saxon barbarians are just not sophisticated enough to grasp anything more subtle than a brick.pic.twitter.com/xrzD4aK2Sv

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      1. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Couldn’t agree more. But postmodernists are quite easily hoisted by their own petards, when their own thinking is subject to the same criteria they apply to others.

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      1. Leon Varkalis‏ @sweatandlies Jan 2
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        Rejecting postmodernism is rejecting endlessly pontificating about definitions to the point where institutions crumble in the confusion.

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      1. flabberghosted(Am I an NPC?)‏ @observeaddict Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        To reject postmodernism is to reject mental masturbation, and, I’ve been told, you should love yourself. Maybe postmodernism is just masturbation advocacy taken to meta levels.

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      1.  🤴 Rich "The King" Sanderson (Free Speech Grifter)‏ @RichSandersen Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        That reminds me of when religious apologists claim they are the proper thinkers and intellectuals, and everyone else is ignorant and close-minded. Postmodernism is just another riff on the "other ways of knowing" trope.

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      1. Rebelette1776‏ @Rebelette1776 Jan 3
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        2). The arrogance of Postmodernism rejects value with narcissistic celebration of mediocrity. A most suitable entertainment befitting all.

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      1. Rebelette1776‏ @Rebelette1776 Jan 3
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Postmodernism is the result of economic failure of the (Marxist) Frankfurt School, now implemented socially & destroying organic constructs.

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      1. Leo Flavum‏ @Xhaimera Jan 3
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Postmodernism is a wrecking ball. May certainly deconstruct a construction or two. But problem is we need those constructions to function - as individuals and as society. Tear them down and we tear ourselves down in the process.

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