OK. Could it do it in straightforward language whilst devising workable plans for the promotion of science and reason and strong institutions and addressing the problems in the universities and generally defending secular liberal democracy, please?https://twitter.com/Luke_Turner/status/948269334673219585 …
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but one of art's roles is to be speculative, and in this way it can certainly spark progress. The relationship of art and science has itself been constantly evolving, and metamodernism simply attempts to articulate the state of things, as opposed to trying to invent anything
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Art has the potential to speak of anything and everything, just as science has. They are two sides of the same coin.
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if you want to separate the two off entirely, one could say that neither does science alone have the power to discover facts without a spark of creativity
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But art doesn't own creativity. That is found in science too.
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That's like saying science doesn't own method. My point is that the two are entirely intertwined, as they have historically always been.
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guess you can't please all of the people all of the time

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I appreciate your good nature and civility, Luke, and I see your good intentions. I apologise for my rudeness and impatience. Perhaps we could try to have a conversation another day but I really think our mentalities are fundamentally opposed.
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thanks Helen, I often enjoy conversations with people with fundamentally opposed worldviews, but my frustration here is I feel we're arguing for essentially the same thing—just with different language. Would be good to talk someday about how we all engage in enacting change.
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Ever considered human cognition is insufficient to understand reality and maybe poetry is the closest approximation? I find mathematical equations the ultimate expression of poetry.
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high-level human cognition is capable of understanding reality. our last century of advanced engineering demonstrates that amply. the trouble is most humans have very poor cognition and don’t recognize it
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No, it is capable of explaining reality. That is not identical to understanding reality. To think we understand reality is an anthropocentric misconception.
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engineering manipulates reality to a great degree of reliability
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But possibly only an infinitessimally small percentage of reality...
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and possibly 95%. it hardly matters to the point that we clearly understand some portion of it enough to turn it to our ends at will
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This is so brilliant, while at the same time idiotic. Don't you feel the seductiveness of it, which is simultaneously extremely off-putting? It's difficult to string together opposites in every sentence, while also being simple. Oh wait, no. It's very easy.
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Thanks for saving me the time to make a similar joke. Mine would have been superior while simultaneously much worse, of course.
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