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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 2

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Luke Turner

    And this is why I will soon be arguing that metamodernism is best understood as an evolution of the worst aspects of postmodernism which purports to make some concessions but objectivity & metanarrative but, in fact, does not & is even harder to understand.https://twitter.com/Luke_Turner/status/948260949684817926 …

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    Luke TurnerVerified account @Luke_Turner
    Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt @Malcolm_Ocean
    but the point of metamodernism is that something can exist both as profoundly relative & an objective truth at once. And not as some kind of Hegelian synthesis, but as an entirely new mode of existence. At least, that's how I try to view the world as an artist attempting movement
    10:49 AM - 2 Jan 2018
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    • Queen of The Wilis⚡️ Stephen Henstock Pallor Ergo Doom InSuffolk mike phelps Inge gab.ai/truthswarm Robert Kowalenko Regina🎃
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      2. Helen Wilson‏ @premodernism Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Question: How do you feel about Sam Harris' Moral Landscape? Do you think we can say objectively that the worst possible misery for everyone is bad? Because I do, but I also you couldn't possibly know that if you didn't have subjective reality of pain. Hope that makes sense...

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 2
        Replying to @premodernism

        Not that kind of subjectivity tho. We nearly all feel pain because humans have central nervous systems.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Helen Wilson‏ @premodernism Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yeah but that doesn't matter if you don't know what it feels like... We know that the nervous system produces the feeling that is so terrible.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Queen of The Wilis ⚡️‏ @QueenOfTheWilis Jan 3
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        What does this even mean??I cant even...

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. (Was A) Grumpy Sloth‏ @Grumpy_P_Sloth Jan 3
        Replying to @QueenOfTheWilis @HPluckrose

        >Take Thomas the Tank Engine >Remaster the show with the art style of "Persistence of Time" >Claim its' the same as the original even though its' different AND should be respected as something new. >Say I'm an artist with words. Peeps love that shit. *goes back under rock*

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      4. (Was A) Grumpy Sloth‏ @Grumpy_P_Sloth Jan 3
        Replying to @Grumpy_P_Sloth @QueenOfTheWilis @HPluckrose

        Seriously though, some people try too hard.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Luke Turner‏Verified account @Luke_Turner Jan 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        metamodernism is not about understanding, or adhering to any kind of system though. As somewhat of a monist, I'm not sure I comprehend your apparent desire to separate out everything.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Luke Turner‏Verified account @Luke_Turner Jan 2
        Replying to @Luke_Turner @HPluckrose

        The entire point of the metamodernism discourse is to attempt to speak beyond postmodernism's abundant failings, so I would think you'd want to engage with rather than dismiss possible developments?

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      2. Ben Sims‏ @Lennysonofbenny Jan 4
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Just when you thought the overreach of postmodernism was at tipping point. Enter "metamodernism". The doubling down

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Luke Turner‏Verified account @Luke_Turner Jan 4
        Replying to @Lennysonofbenny @HPluckrose

        On the contrary, metamodernism describes culture's attempt to move beyond postmodernism's dead ends. Your tweet itself can be seen as metamodern, for it voices that discontent with pomo on a metamodern platform. Not a doubling down, but all options on the table to move forward 💖

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Ben Sims‏ @Lennysonofbenny Jan 4
        Replying to @Luke_Turner @HPluckrose

        Interesting, are the tenets of MM rooted in contrived notions of subjective reality too?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Luke Turner‏Verified account @Luke_Turner Jan 5
        Replying to @Lennysonofbenny @HPluckrose

        metamodernism encompasses shifts in contemporary philosophy rooted in theorising *objective* reality (which had become almost taboo in postmodern theory), for example Speculative Realism and Quentin Meillassoux's 'After Finitude' 👍

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      6. Ben Sims‏ @Lennysonofbenny Jan 5
        Replying to @Luke_Turner @HPluckrose

        "Speculative realism" there is a lack of conviction right there in the title

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      7. Luke Turner‏Verified account @Luke_Turner Jan 6
        Replying to @Lennysonofbenny @HPluckrose

        Yeah, no.

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