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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Dec 2017

    LOL. My moral foundations are exactly the same as my mothers even tho we differ a lot on particular policies and values and beliefs. She tends to be more extreme in various directions because she's generally a more passionate person. I wonder how much of this is genetic.pic.twitter.com/7CVYQeQfHO

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      1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Dec 2017

        I do find it interesting that we're both ultra-liberal on everything except loyalty where we're more conservative than conservatives.

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      2. Irene Ogrizek‏ @ireneogrizek 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        One difficulty: fairness is one idea, equitable outcomes, which is what I believe in, is another, slightly different idea. Fairness to me means giving ppl exactly the same whatsit. Equitability can mean different but equivalent whatsits. Don't know if I'm over-parsing here.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ireneogrizek

        Have a look at what Haidt means by a general sense of fairness. You've just described the difference between a liberal sense and Conservative sense in most black & white terms.

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @ireneogrizek

        Well, no, not quite, actually reading your thing again.

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      2. wharfgirl‏ @wharfgirl 27 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        And why is authority a moral value?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Dec 2017
        Replying to @wharfgirl

        Respect for authority and tradition is a moral foundation found much more strongly in conservatives. See moral foundation theory. http://www.moralfoundations.org 

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      4. wharfgirl‏ @wharfgirl 27 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Sorry but that is just outdated nonsense. Take it from a Conservative. We value self reliance, enterprise, integrity and freedom of the individual.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @wharfgirl

        Lol! No, I won't just accept this from a random tweeter + reject an immense body of research from arguably, the best respected moral psychologist of our time but feel free to look deeper at that research and critique more thoughtfully.

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      6. wharfgirl‏ @wharfgirl 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Ok read it. Organising ideas into clusters isn’t science.

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      7. James Burnett‏ @james_burnett_ 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @wharfgirl @HPluckrose

        Might be the dumbest tweet of the day.

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      2. wharfgirl‏ @wharfgirl 27 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You don’t mention honesty or reliability

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Dec 2017
        Replying to @wharfgirl

        Honesty is not one of the moral foundations. I expect it crosses several. Reliability would be but would probably come in on the conservative side.

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      4. Helen Wilson‏ @premodernism 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @wharfgirl

        I'm guessing honesty and reliability fall into loyalty

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      5. wharfgirl‏ @wharfgirl 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @premodernism @HPluckrose

        No. They don’t. Or not as I understand them. Both can and should override loyalty under certain circumstances.

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      1. Helen Wilson‏ @premodernism 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I find your .3 purity morality disturbing. Purity morality is just gross and wrong. As you can see I have cleansed myself of the purity morality virus.pic.twitter.com/xkcI7e48kK

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      1. Cassandra Tully‏ @CassandraMTully 28 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        "Purity" contains WAY too many questions about religion and is a proxy for "social conservatism". Lefty's view "Anti Racism" with the same kind of puritanism. This pier in the moral foundations theory may not be valid.

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