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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
    Replying to @ConceptualJames @GodDoesnt and

    Yes. Not explicitly but in effect, yes. Also, anti-racist goals were sexist. The argument is that when people spoke of 'women' they meant white women and when they spoke of 'blacks' they meant men. The unique problems of black women were getting missed.

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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Atticus_Amber @GodDoesnt and

        Yes. We don't need a theory for that. We just need that idea. Crenshaw explicitly discouraged individuality & shared humanity. She frowned upon 'I am a person who happens to be black' & advocated 'I am black.' She criticised universal liberalism for trying to overcome categories

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Atticus_Amber @GodDoesnt and

        Yes. I broke down her foundational essays here: http://helenpluckroseblogs.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/extract-from-essay-of-mine-which-breaks.html … Obviously a lot more to it than that but both of them - 1989 & 1991 - are available online if you want to look deeper.

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      5. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Atticus_Amber and

        I had no idea my mild disagreement with Eliezer would turn into such an interesting thread.

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      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Intrinsic29 @Atticus_Amber and

        Well, I'm delighted. Often you lose the will to live when I get into fine details of feminist theory and threaten to talk to me about free will. ;-)

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      7. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Atticus_Amber and

        Someday, we should get deep into the fine details on free will in Dms or something.

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      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Intrinsic29 @Atticus_Amber and

        *runs away*

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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

        This seems to have not been entirely unreasonable. For example, feminism claimed women were represented as passive and chaste and it needed to be recognised that they could be assertive and sexual. But black American women had a different stereotype - aggressive & promiscuous.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

        That needed tackling too & it could well be the reason why employers were discriminating against black women. But there was no recourse. Discrimination needed to be shown to be on the grounds of sex or race. If a company could show it employed both women & black ppl, no case.

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

        But it could actually have an unofficial policy of not employing black women because of prejudiced assumptions related to those stereotypes. Therefore, it was the intersection of race & gender that caused the discrimination. Not unreasonable.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

        But Crenshaw advocated more minute identity politics & cultural constructivism based on postmodernist approaches & rejected universal liberalism from the start so her methodology was bad. Then people went nuts with it which was really inevitable given those premises.

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      6. kdul‏ @kdulal 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

        Do you have some book coming Helen? I would love to read about all this. I love reading a book on an issue rather than articles/comments on the web or newspaper.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @kdulal @GodDoesnt and

        I did think of writing one in which I broke down the main forms of critical theory and explained where they came from and how they are affecting society & suggested ways to counter them but I don't think enough people will be interested enough in going that deeply into theory.

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      8. kdul‏ @kdulal 26 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

        I cannot say for others but I would be surely interested in reading a book about critical theory and postmodernism written by you for laymen.

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