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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray 25 Dec 2017

      Charles Murray Retweeted DHB

      Why there is something rather than nothing? To believe "no reason" is a leap of faith.https://twitter.com/DavidHarleyBoyd/status/945271746709598208 …

      Charles Murray added,

      DHB @DavidHarleyBoyd
      Replying to @RobJoswiak @charlesmurray
      Atheism is not a belief.
      138 replies 42 retweets 254 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @charlesmurray

      I'm not sure anyone does believe no reason. We just don't know what it is & positing a reasoning, creating, moral being very much like a human as the cause seems like something humans would do naively.

      5 replies 4 retweets 69 likes
    3. Steve Mundie‏ @SteveMundie 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @charlesmurray

      Not true, the #atheist position is that the universe just happened, its creation and all its contents, including us, is meaninglessly contingent.

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @SteveMundie @charlesmurray

      No, it's not. Atheists are just people who disbelieve in gods. They can believe all sorts of shit about the universe. My knowledge of physics is too poor to have an opinion but even the most knowledgeable don't claim to know the reason the universe formed.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. Steve Mundie‏ @SteveMundie 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @charlesmurray

      Christians, Jews and Muslims don’t place their faith in gods either. As for the existence of ‘powers and principalities’, that’s where things can get complicated. Re: physics, the reason, or any reason for the existence of the universe is beyond that science’s epistemic frame.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Dec 2017
      Replying to @SteveMundie @charlesmurray

      Yes, they do. Yahweh. The reason for the universe is unknown but I'm not sure how you can claim physics won't be the way it is discovered. It's done best so far. Taken us back to the expansion of the universe.

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    7. Steve Mundie‏ @SteveMundie 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @charlesmurray

      No, they don’t. Yahweh is not a god but God, Being itself. It is only due to the the limitations of language that people, absent a close reading of the texts, get the false impression that God is a being among other beings.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @SteveMundie @charlesmurray

      This is meaningless verbiage until there is some evidence of God. Also, that one appears to be an amalgamation of three gods.

      4:39 AM - 26 Dec 2017
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        2. Steve Mundie‏ @SteveMundie 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @charlesmurray

          There is sufficient evidence for faith in God, and a Trinitarian ontology. In fact, both Catholic and Tibetan Buddhist traditions have similar perspectives. But neither, would constitute knowledge from the liberal enlightenment point of view.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @SteveMundie @charlesmurray

          Well, no. It's all a bit embarrassing really. Makes me despair of humanity too sometimes but then I see religious people being perfectly reasonable in other areas so I try to remain optimistic.

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        4. Steve Mundie‏ @SteveMundie 26 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @charlesmurray

          I get and share your concerns and cautious optimism. I’m just on the side of faith AND the liberal enlightenment.

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