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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes 19 Dec 2017

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      Hu-what do we make of this idea? https://twitter.com/reaINormie/status/943333797948477441 …

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    2. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes 20 Dec 2017

      Seriously does anyone have anything? I still don't really know what to make of it. The left thinks it's evil and the centrists just sort of ignore it? @hbdchick @Halalcoholism @HPluckrose @BDSixsmith @salonium @idkwhototag @Sorry

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    3. Gil Ant‏ @Gil_Ant 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @MillenarianWoes @hbdchick and

      no ban, healthy dose of mocking, all the nations he refers are not ethnically homogeneous. our model is not ethnicity based, it's institutions, values based, respect rule of law, be open to difference, work hard, you're welcome, not everybody can come. every time i see this guy:pic.twitter.com/zLc2qLv0nw

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    4. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Gil_Ant @hbdchick and

      It is a different model, but is it morally bad or otherwise flawed? An ethnostate could still have all those things in addition to be founded on white identity.

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    5. Gil Ant‏ @Gil_Ant 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @MillenarianWoes @hbdchick and

      stereotyping entire groups is repugnant, and it's false info, but aside that, when policy requires violence, or a limitation of citizenship rights, against other groups, or your members of your own group who don't agree, yes it's" morally bad", this is not hard.

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    6. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Gil_Ant @hbdchick and

      Agree, but all those things can be separated out. Stripping people of citizenship, violently deporting etc is clearly horrible. What about ceasing all non-white immigration purely because of preference for own racial group? What about racial groups mutually agreeing to split up?

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    7. Gil Ant‏ @Gil_Ant 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @MillenarianWoes @hbdchick and

      self determination of population is the history of the 20th century after WW1, and the 21st, ex Yugoslavia, czech/slovakia, catalonia, Kurdistan, ex-USSr based on identity. what's advocated here, is one tiny fringe, imposing will over all others.

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    8. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Gil_Ant @hbdchick and

      If they were to impose their will it would be bad. But if they were to popularize their ideas until they became mainstream (very unlikely), and then people voted to stop all non-white immigration, or black separatists agreed to a two-state solution, would that be bad?

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    9. Gil Ant‏ @Gil_Ant 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @MillenarianWoes @hbdchick and

      separation, that's the history of 20th century europe, based on identity, white immigration, the history of north and south America until end of ww2. two state solution Israel/Palestine. that video? fantasy, still free speech. moronic speech, but still free speech

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    10. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Gil_Ant @hbdchick and

      So you think it would not work/nothing good would come of it/it's unwise. But not necessarily immoral to prefer living in a place that is majority your own race?

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @MillenarianWoes @Gil_Ant and

      I've always felt too tall so I'd prefer living in a place that is majority tall people so I felt more average. Is this immoral? No. If I tried to institute it, I would be both stupid & unethical coz it's a shit way to evaluate my fellow citizens. This really is very simple.

      7:10 AM - 20 Dec 2017
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        2. Raymond McCue  💗⚤ 💜⚣ 💙,  🏳️‍🌈‏ @RayMcCue 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MillenarianWoes and

          I think this is an exaggeration of the Rights usual concerns: working and having resources taken from you to fund institutions you dont believe in, being forced to do things (eg recognize same-sex marriage) that go against your moral beliefs. Now theres just an added racial lens.

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        3. Raymond McCue  💗⚤ 💜⚣ 💙,  🏳️‍🌈‏ @RayMcCue 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @RayMcCue @HPluckrose and

          Would this still be happening if our laws were more libertarian in nature and the very same changes were taking place thru social instead of legal means? Yes, but these guys would have the option to create their own West-venerating communities much like the Hasidic ones of NYC

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        4. Raymond McCue  💗⚤ 💜⚣ 💙,  🏳️‍🌈‏ @RayMcCue 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @RayMcCue @HPluckrose and

          There might be less tension then… Though as I was writing this, I realized that the intersectional Left would still come after them anyway through embargoes and the like (and demand for added laws) because they believe libertarianism maintains the power structures they loathe

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