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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Solaris Rex‏ @SolarisRex 19 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Privacy is earned with age. An infant has no right to privacy while a 15 yr old needs it. As for my help, they don't have to want it. I'm their parent, I'm obligated to care for them while they're in my house. That's attentive parenting.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2017
      Replying to @SolarisRex

      They have the right to keep their own feelings private until they want to share them for as long as they live. No-one has the right to access anyone's else's mind just as they don't have the right to access their body.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @SolarisRex

      My parents were incredibly liberal but I still found it very hard to tolerate any intrusion into my mind or attempts to control me. I ended up remaining in my room as much as possible and leaving home as soon as legally old enough. Independence was everything

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    4. Solaris Rex‏ @SolarisRex 19 Dec 2017
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      It doesn't sound like your parents set appropriate boundaries for you. I'm not judging, but you left home early, feel that violence is acceptable to 'express' anger, take your anger out on loved ones & think that children have the same right to privacy that adults do.

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    5. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 19 Dec 2017
      Replying to @SolarisRex @HPluckrose

      That's a bold claim. Helen turned out fine. So what would those boundaries have done? There are no specific rules to parenting. Because all children are different. They need different things, as their personalities require this.

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    6. Solaris Rex‏ @SolarisRex 19 Dec 2017
      Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose

      Summarizing parts of the conversation is a bold claim? Really? Wow, I didn't know that condensing several of Helen's tweets into one was controversial. For the record, yeah, Helen turned out ok. That was never my argument.

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    7. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 19 Dec 2017
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      I read the whole conversation. Your claim/conclusion was that it sounded like her parents didn't set appropriate boundaries for her. I asked what those boundaries you propose would've done? Because if she turned out fine, I don't see the issue.

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    8. Solaris Rex‏ @SolarisRex 19 Dec 2017
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      That's an utterly useless point to argue, which was one of my points. Parents make well intentioned mistakes with their children, the children then live with those mistakes. It no longer matters what mistakes her parents made in her context. She lives with the results.

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    9. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 19 Dec 2017
      Replying to @SolarisRex @HPluckrose

      And what well intentioned mistakes is it that Helen makes? And what are those results exactly? Unless those mistakes are of the extreme kind, parents have less impact on those results than you might think.

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    10. Solaris Rex‏ @SolarisRex 19 Dec 2017
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      Did any of you read the conversation before deciding what I had and hadn't already said? https://twitter.com/SolarisRex/status/943219023071780864 …

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Dec 2017
      Replying to @SolarisRex @TamaraBrouwer1

      It looks to me like they did!

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        1. Solaris Rex‏ @SolarisRex 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1

          I wouldn't have had to quote so many of my own tweets to try to get them to engage with what I actually said if that were true, and we both know it.

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