That’s a pretty strong statement. What is race if not a cultural institution?
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Replying to @svenosaurus
Are you remembering that we're talking about white people voting completely differently depending on whether they were evangelicals or not?
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In what way am I, a white atheist, responsible for the values of white evangelical Christians if I vote completely differently to them because I have completely different values?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Wrong frame. No one is accusing you (or me, same description) of causing this. You’re essentially making the same argument as “my ancestors didn’t own slaves”.
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Replying to @svenosaurus
Then what are we arguing about? I thought your position was that this was a white problem and mine was that it has more to do with values than skin colour?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
It is an institutional problem. Race and religion are symptoms of those institutions, and can’t be viewed as exogenous factors. That is my position.
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Replying to @svenosaurus
Race isn't a symptom of institutions. Its the colour of your skin depending on which part of the world your ancestors came from. How does this relate to the fact that whether or not whites voted for Moore depended on their religion?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Race categorization depends on society and its institutions.
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Replying to @svenosaurus
Is this relevant here tho? Does America categorise evangelical whites as a different race to non-evangelical whites?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Obviously not, but I don’t get the logic of the question. What I’m saying is that both factors are historically conditioned. Is that even controversial?
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Is it even relevant? No. I'm going to mute you now because I don't want to forget your name and try to talk to you again. You're either very stoned to the point where you can't follow a conversation or English is a second language. Either way, you're a time waster.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @svenosaurus
"Arabs cause terrorism" "Seems a bit strong" "Well, digging deeper: Arab Islamic fundamentalists cause terrorism" "Correlated but the ideology isn't unique to or ubiquitous among Arabs. Why say Arab at all if we can name the ideology itself?" "bla bla orthogonal/exogenous blabla"
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