We can reasonably attack white supremacy but not being white. I don't know why this is so hard. The distinction between ideas and people is getting harder and harder for more and more people.
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Wrong frame. No one is accusing you (or me, same description) of causing this. You’re essentially making the same argument as “my ancestors didn’t own slaves”.
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Then what are we arguing about? I thought your position was that this was a white problem and mine was that it has more to do with values than skin colour?
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It is an institutional problem. Race and religion are symptoms of those institutions, and can’t be viewed as exogenous factors. That is my position.
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Race isn't a symptom of institutions. Its the colour of your skin depending on which part of the world your ancestors came from. How does this relate to the fact that whether or not whites voted for Moore depended on their religion?
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Race categorization depends on society and its institutions.
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Is this relevant here tho? Does America categorise evangelical whites as a different race to non-evangelical whites?
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Obviously not, but I don’t get the logic of the question. What I’m saying is that both factors are historically conditioned. Is that even controversial?
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Is it even relevant? No. I'm going to mute you now because I don't want to forget your name and try to talk to you again. You're either very stoned to the point where you can't follow a conversation or English is a second language. Either way, you're a time waster.
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