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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017

      Another argument on Facebook about whether its reasonable to blame white people for the votes Roy Moore did get. White people as a whole, that is. Their whiteness, specifically.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017

      I am generally of the opinion it is not even tho there is value in honestly acknowledging certain problems to be overrepresented in certain demographics in order to understand why that may be.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017

      I think ideas and values are more significant here because they are the things that motivate people and the things that can be changed.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017

      This has led me to be (gently) accused of not understanding how deeply ingrained race issues are in the American South. This is probably true but these are still ideas and values.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017

      We can reasonably attack white supremacy but not being white. I don't know why this is so hard. The distinction between ideas and people is getting harder and harder for more and more people.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017

          I also still keep encountering the accusation that if I say that we shouldn't judge people based on race, gender, sexuality etc, this means that I think this isn't happening or isn't the cause of the problem.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017

          I said this the other day but in a different context. It feels new to me. I'm used to people thinking mistaking descriptive statements for prescriptive ones but not the other way round.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017

          eg: I am used to: More men than women want to do engineering. Why do you think women shouldn't do engineering?! But: We shouldn't judge people by their race. How can you not know racism exists?! seems new.

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        2. Gangsters Offing Press (GOP)‏ @svenosaurus 15 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I think you’re taking it too literally. No one is saying white people vote a certain way because they were born white. The implied reason is a system that rewards their whiteness.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017
          Replying to @svenosaurus

          I don't know what this means. 'Rewards their whiteness.' Seems to be a religious thing.pic.twitter.com/D1IxZ5QyKi

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        4. Gangsters Offing Press (GOP)‏ @svenosaurus 15 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          The system in which being white brings advantages. It’s hard not to take free gifts when they are continually offered.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Dec 2017
          Replying to @svenosaurus

          And yet this seemed to depend very much on belief rather than on whiteness.

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        1. H K‏ @herne_kzn 15 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Part of the problem ass the semantic creep in the word "whiteness" to cover both "upholding white supremacy" and some sen"se of "being white" with the casual equivalence prevalent in casual conversation/activism.

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        1. Ghost Monster Palmer‏ @gm_palmer 15 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          This line of attack is supported by the argument that "white" is an invented category which usually ignores that the same must be true of any color (much like your early comments regarding gender). Also: People are bad and thinking yet have access to a lot of words.

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        1. Peter Grant‏ @AtheistStoned 15 Dec 2017
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          Natural consequence of considering race to be merely a social construct.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/941658695687077888 …

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          Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
          We can reasonably attack white supremacy but not being white. I don't know why this is so hard. The distinction between ideas and people is getting harder and harder for more and more people.
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        1. Tom Derandere‏ @TTDerandere 15 Dec 2017
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          I'm not attached to being white. I would be happy to let the label go to the people who do prize it. It may as well be a convenient term of self-identification for people who are to Roy Moore's liking.

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        1. Dark‏ @Jovangnr 15 Dec 2017
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          It is by design, I'm afraid

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