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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 12 Dec 2017

    I fear I am one of those liberal elitists. I'd just really like everyone to shut up unless they have some idea what they're talking about.

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      2. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I get impatient with this too but in the long run, I think it's good that under informed people state their opinions, so they can be corrected and have their beliefs swayed. And so the example of them being corrected publicly can sway others.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Intrinsic29

        Well, really I'd like people to know when they don't have any idea about something and not have the opinions either silently or verbally.

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      4. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I agree it'd be better if they were more honest about the limits of their knowledge but if that isn't an option and I have to choose between them being arrogantly vocal about their opinions or just shutting up and never adjusting those beliefs, I choose the former.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Intrinsic29

        Me too.

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      2. Alex Murillo‏ @alex_amurillo 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        lol I get what you're saying, but oddly I have noticed that smart, knowledgeable people can actually glean something from listening to those they perceive as ill-informed. Once in a while.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @alex_amurillo

        If they actually aren't ill-informed. If I try to have opinions on physics, you're unlikely to glean anything.

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      4. Alex Murillo‏ @alex_amurillo 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Haha well you're operating within the empirical realm solely, and in that, of course you're right. But to use your example, if I were a physics major, one thing I could glean would be "boy the average person really doesn't know much about this stuff."

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      2. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But "liberal" is the opposite of those who try to shut everyone up. Re-read your favorite Kindly Inquisitors.

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      3. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ExcludedMuddle @HPluckrose

        Tolerate ignorance while secretly hoping for higher signal/noise ratios.

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      4. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Evolving_Ego @HPluckrose

        The ratio is merely a consequence of biology and complexity...the nice thing is we keep people engaged rather than run an oligarchy. The hope is the best ideas win on the merits, and to allow those best ideas to be found, we must tolerate lots of bad ones.

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      5. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ExcludedMuddle @HPluckrose

        Most intelligent people know where to go for higher signal/noise ratios. It's a good thing we're not relegated to sifting through YouTube comment sections hoping for a nugget of wisdom.

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      1. Cassandra Tully‏ @CassandraMTully 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Twitter is the wrong place to make this request. No one shuts up and everything is about politics. Politics is primarily about power, not knowledge. Your request is best made at the university, but....see above and replace "Twitter" with "University"

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      2. Spooky Encounter‏ @DaRealWulfshady 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Me too, but then I remember that everybody thinks that they already know what they're talking about.

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      3. Spooky Encounter‏ @DaRealWulfshady 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @DaRealWulfshady @HPluckrose

        And if you have got things wrong, how will you ever know it without voicing your views and using others as a sounding board?

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      1. JPSearle‏ @TmQuin 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Unless um...the talking bit includes a question mark...or a querilous tone at the end of a sentence, maybe?

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      1. David‏ @wellydog67 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I’m not an academic, so I recognise that I have a poor grasp of things I know nothing about.

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      1. James Counsellor‏ @jcounsellor 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        In the Twitter-verse there is an under appreciated distinction between unconscious incompetence and conscious incompetence.

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      2. Žarko Radulović‏ @josephbt 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I so wish this also. I'm a food tech engineer, and I get twitchy when people start to talk about food production. So so so much bad data and false "facts" there

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      3. D Shawn Smith‏ @literacyisgood 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @josephbt @HPluckrose

        maybe you should start a Twitter account specifically for the purpose of ranting about stupid beliefs people have about food production it could be therapeutic, and the rest of us would learn

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      1. Gibbot‏ @Gibbot5000 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Don't hold your breath.

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