Men and women really are *much* more alike psychologically than different but we notice subtle differences more than we notice similarities which we just take for granted.
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Yes, I think so much would be helped in the gender wars if only people would recognise different but strongly overlapping distributions of traits.
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This is one of the points of James Damore's much-maligned Google Memo. His overlapping bell curves were included specifically to illustrate HOW MUCH they overlap & thereby argue that m/f differences wern't an excuse for gendered discrimination (1/2)
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Yes, exactly. Again, with the height example, our differences often look very much like this.pic.twitter.com/QPFIwpfjd0
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In your bell curve example, the variable is height. What was the variable in the bell curve chart james damore had in the memo? As i remember it was data free rendering of a chart, not an actual chart.
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Yes, I think it was just a symbol of what different distributions actually look like.
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Yes, so I'm curious how he proves anything about different distributions between m & f without even showing which variable he's talking about.
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Well, its a lot more than just the chart. That (I think) was just to show the difference between how people imagine gender - two distinct lines - and how it actually is - overlapping hugely.
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It's NOT a lot more than just the chart. It was not even an actual chart. It was a drawing of a chart. Is it how people do science these days? You just make a claim, draw a mock chart, expect the reader to imagine the rest and accept the conclusion? Something's missing here.
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Yes, a lot more. Here it is. Follow links. https://heterodoxacademy.org/2017/08/10/the-google-memo-what-does-the-research-say-about-gender-differences/ … The diagram was an illustration of the error in understanding populations. It was a memo on a forum for discussing diversity issues, not a scientific paper (tho it cited several).
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Are there averages for how British men prefer their tea as opposed to how British women do? Or is there a totalitearian mandate in effect for the proper way to enjoy it that is the same for both sexes?
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Well, now, this is very interesting! There is a huge overlap but if we were to look at this chart as strength rather than height, this would probably be correct.pic.twitter.com/N4m0LJcF9y
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(2/2) yet somehow he still got called a sexist for pointing out that the differences DO exist and should be taken into account when looking for explanations of gendered outcomes across large populations.
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A saying from my training:- A person is in some respects like all other people, in some respects like some other people, and in some respects like no other people
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