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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Dec 2017

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      Sounds like hell to me. https://twitter.com/Rongwrong_/status/938007147392139264 …

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    2. Aaron Gross‏ @Rongwrong_ 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Seeing how my kids and others their age grew up with working mothers breaks my heart. Compared to now, our childhood with stay-at-home moms really was heaven.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Rongwrong_

      In what way? I think some balance is needed. Its not good for kids to never see their mother (or their father) because they work such long hours but its not good for them to be her sole focus either. I'm not a fan of helicopter parenting.

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    4. Aaron Gross‏ @Rongwrong_ 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It was the opposite of helicopter parenting. Helicopter parenting came along years AFTER women had started working outside the home. We used to roam the neighborhood unsupervised, sometimes doing what we called "exploring."

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Rongwrong_

      OK. Did you mother need to be at home whilst you did that? Couldn't she go to work or have some kind of life of her own in this time?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Aaron Gross‏ @Rongwrong_ 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yes, mothers needed to be at home to feed us and (some feminists might hate this) to give us attention. We weren't wandering around ALL the time. Also, because we weren't helicoptered, sometimes we needed emergence adult assistance, like when my brother fell down the storm drain

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    7. Georgiana‏ @PorgyGeorgy 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Rongwrong_ @HPluckrose

      If you're 6-7yo, and even a big younger, your mom could've taught you where the food was, how to heat it (or prepare it such that you don't have to heat it). As well as who to call in case of emergencies. Have an older relative/neighbor available etc

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    8. Aaron Gross‏ @Rongwrong_ 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @PorgyGeorgy @HPluckrose

      Sure. You can come home to an empty house, fix yourself some sustenance, eat, and hang out alone. That's basically how it was for my children. It's not child abuse, but it sure is a lousy way to live.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Rongwrong_ @PorgyGeorgy

      For me, it was heaven. I cherished the 2.5 hours I had the house to myself before my mother got home. So much comes down to personality. My daughter also likes a good two hours on her own to recharge before she's ready to talk to anyone.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Rongwrong_ @PorgyGeorgy

      Maybe you are very extroverted and don't like being alone even for a few hours and your kids are the same? Were you not in a position to be there for them?

      4:31 AM - 5 Dec 2017
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        2. Aaron Gross‏ @Rongwrong_ 5 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PorgyGeorgy

          I'm an introvert. Of my kids is an introvert too, and the other one is maybe in the middle between introvert and extravert. I wasn't at home during the day because I was at work.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Rongwrong_ @PorgyGeorgy

          But you don't like having the house to yourself, eating on your own and doing your own thing? And you had to work, presumably? Otherwise you'd have made sure your kids didn't come home to an empty house?

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