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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Kaelan Scott Gardner ♮‏ @Daniel_Rivieria 27 Nov 2017

      Kaelan Scott Gardner ♮ Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      I'm sorry but I just see this as nothing more than crazy. Postmodernism has nothing. NOTHING to do with the surge to the right. Civil rights and de-platforming is NOT postmodernism. Trump supporters know NOTHING about postmodernist academia.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/935406634490388480 …

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      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      But this is not wrong: https://twitter.com/AaronRHanlon/status/935164685820878848 … People are more aware of postmodernism now in the Trump/Brexit era because its broken the bounds of academia and caused significant damage to the left thereby influencing the surge to the right.
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    2. Kaelan Scott Gardner ♮‏ @Daniel_Rivieria 27 Nov 2017

      I like Helen but this is the most extreme of takes. @NuclearTakes level. Gender theory is not postmodern, black lives matter is not postmodern, decolonization can be postmodern but not always. I don't understand this whatsoever. Can you explain @HPluckrose?

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    3. Kaelan Scott Gardner ♮‏ @Daniel_Rivieria 27 Nov 2017

      This is the definition of postmodernist thinking. How is this influencing a surge to the right? How is the increase of leftists and marxists inherently postmodern. You people are just using "Postmodern" as a slur for left leaning people going against your viewpoints.pic.twitter.com/uOIFb1G291

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    4. Kaelan Scott Gardner ♮‏ @Daniel_Rivieria 27 Nov 2017

      Okay why decolonization can sometimes be postmodern. Decolonization that tries to remove white supremacist structures is not postmodern. But decolonization that considers western thinking such as science to be racist is postmodernism. But that's like such a small % of thinkers.

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    5. James Berry‏ @TheJamesBerry 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Daniel_Rivieria @NuclearTakes @HPluckrose

      Many have been drawn to the right because they have been told that even though they are poor, jobless and unhappy, they are also privileged racists. Theres only so much people can take, and many have had enough. That's the rise in trump imho

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    6. Kaelan Scott Gardner ♮‏ @Daniel_Rivieria 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @TheJamesBerry @NuclearTakes @HPluckrose

      Yeah but that's not postmodernism that's just social justice thinking done with bad PR

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    7. James Berry‏ @TheJamesBerry 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Daniel_Rivieria @NuclearTakes @HPluckrose

      This is pretty much the premise of postmodernism in terms of cultural identity. Everything is the fault of white people, therefore *all* white people share blame. This doesn't bother me personally, but it does give me an understanding as to what is happening culturally atm.pic.twitter.com/vXtnyvNGcO

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    8. Ben Weeks‏ @ben_weeks 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @4scoren7years @TheJamesBerry and

      It argues that anyone with any power must be bad because those without power must be oppressed by those with it. Of course this ignores personal responsibility, competence and a gracious/just use of power. It puts good and evil into classes instead of individuals. Big mistake.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @4scoren7years @ben_weeks and

      This is the self-referentiality problem that is pointed out to them constantly. The first lot said they didn't claim anything to be true. The second more politicised wave just ignore the contradiction.

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        2. Kaelan Scott Gardner ♮‏ @Daniel_Rivieria 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @4scoren7years and

          Then the "wave" you're talking about decides to call themselves postmodern but isn't ACTUALLY classical postmodern.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Daniel_Rivieria @4scoren7years and

          No, its an evolution of it. They may or may not call themselves postmodern. Its those key ideas abt knowledge, language, identity, structures of power etc that remain consistent.

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        4. Kaelan Scott Gardner ♮‏ @Daniel_Rivieria 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @4scoren7years and

          Then I guess I'm not in disagreement as to what is defined as being post modern and rather just thinking postmodernism isn't inherently a bad thing then.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Daniel_Rivieria @4scoren7years and

          You don't think so? We'd have to lose objective knowledge and individual agency to a considerable extent? See language as the constructing force & interpretations as valid as intentions?

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        2. Ben Weeks‏ @ben_weeks 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @4scoren7years @HPluckrose and

          No. Second wave is feminism prior to intersectional post-modernism. One way to describe the distinction between the two is equality of opportunity vs. equality of outcome. The latter gives a moral justification for use of force to feed envy, resentment and jealousy.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @ben_weeks @4scoren7years and

          Yes, but here I was referring to the second wave of postmodernists. 1st wave - Foucault, Derrida, Lyotard 2nd wave - Butler, Crenshaw, Said

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @4scoren7years @ben_weeks and

          Its where the ideas come from. They may not know this,

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