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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @ChooseIntact @HPluckrose and

      Well, sure, you want to change the law. I can't see the point, myself. There's no harm. Parents are best placed to make those decisions on behalf of the infant children they love and care for.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield @ChooseIntact and

      No, they're not. There are right and wrong answers here. Parents can be right or wrong in their choices. We tend to see this when it comes to female genital mutilation but not male.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ChooseIntact and

      I think that the comparision with Female Genital Mutilation is tempting but wholly misguided. FGM is - despite some campaigners' claims - relatively restricted in its sway, and I suggest, positively harmful. >>

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    4. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield @HPluckrose and

      >> I guess some will say that's contradictory. But the evidence of widespread opposition to FGM and support for male circumcision is not evidence of hypocrisy, it is evidence that they are two different things.

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    5. Choose Intact‏ @ChooseIntact 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield @HPluckrose and

      This isn’t a way to address your mistaken claim that there is no harm. Arguing that a defense is unprincipled-but-at-least-it’s-popular hardly makes it better, either. Non-therapeutic genital cutting without consent is unethical. Excluding anyone from that is hypocrisy.

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    6. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @ChooseIntact @HPluckrose and

      I think I can decide how I will address the argument.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield @ChooseIntact and

      You have the right to, obviously. It just doesn't work.

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    8. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ChooseIntact and

      It doesn't work for you.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield @ChooseIntact and

      It doesn't work logically. I don't have my own logic.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @JamesHeartfield and

      If you are going to insist that things are ethical if they have widespread support and no widescale opposition, you have to concede that slavery, the persecution of homosexuals & the denial of rights to women were once ethical & still are in some places.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @JamesHeartfield and

      In which case, you are a cultural relativist and have not a leg to stand on if your own cultural norms change in a way you don't like. Much better to have consistent principles of human rights than to go with the majority view.

      11:09 AM - 26 Nov 2017
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        2. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield 26 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ChooseIntact and

          I don't think you can say 'cultural relativist' when the culture you are describing is all humanity. What polity in the world outlaws circumcision? It's your position that is eccentric.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Nov 2017
          Replying to @JamesHeartfield @ChooseIntact and

          The argument 'It's right if the majority thinks it is' is what is culturally (and temporally) relative. It's not a good argument for MGM if you want to argue against this in other areas - eg women's and LGBT rights.

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