That depends on the power distribution associated with those positions.
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If power is used to force others to, eg, use pronouns they don't believe in, yes, but this is what I am getting at. It is actions that harm, not individuals own beliefs about gender.
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I wonder if "beliefs" that are completely decoupled from actions (including thinking and speaking) are anything describable/detectable/existing at all.
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I'm not including thinking and speaking. You can think & say that your gender is non-binary. Person I'm speaking to now would say you constrain her within gender stereotypes this way. She's wrong & can deal with it.
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The second part is a little too glib. If everyone started treating you as a man—addressing you as "sir", saying your dress was inappropriate, etc—it might not "invalidate" you but it could make it hard for you to maintain your subjective identity as a woman.
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If if is targeted at people, yes.
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Untargeted as well. If the culture were such that everyone with initials HP is a man, no matter what their biology or subjective identity, the effect might be even stronger than if you were personally targeted.
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Then don't target people with those initials! My argument is for leaving people alone.
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Except when saying that you believe in the gender binary ends you up with a fine or prison time. That's pretty constraining
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That's my point about needing to let people believe & express their own views.
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Got any recommendations on responses to the "trans women are women" mantra? Referring to biology never works and I end up feeling like I'm talking to Flat-Earthers.
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Yep! https://areomagazine.com/2017/09/27/an-argument-for-a-liberal-and-rational-approach-to-transgender-rights-and-inclusion/ … Also, avoid talking about the definition of 'women', you'll just be talking past each other.
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My concern is that that self declared gender identity *does* impact people. The sports, private female spaces. NB people choose women’s spaces more so as they’re afraid of going into male spaces.
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That's my point tho & what we wrote about. The practical considerations need working out. People can have whatever ideas the want.
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Sure. I’m all for working out the practical solutions so everyone is happy.
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There seems to be a marked increase in the number of people claiming that their existence has been invalidated. I love a good paradox.
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It’s almost like the validation of random strangers isn’t worth worrying about.
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That’s nice in a John Lennon “Imagine” sort of way. But when you make laws that say it’s OK for a 40 year old man to use the same bathroom at the same time as a ten year old girl you’ve crossed the line between pleasant sounding idealism and a disaster waiting to happen.
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Except that disbelieving someone's gender identity makes you Hitler...
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