I feel some responsibility to humans who exist now but none to ensure that more do in the future.
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So I can't really join the moral panic about declining birth rates. Aside from practical issues around an aging population, this is morally neutral.
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Wait.. is anyone claiming there is a moral imperative to squeeze out sprogs?
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Yes! Social conservatives generally. Those who talk of 'white genocide' particularly.
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My word.. extraordinary
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I don't mean all social conservatives but when you find people lamenting low birthrates & blaming a sexual revolution and feminism, they are social conservatives.
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In my experience there tends to be a racial aspect to this. These people would be happy with certain races having low birth rates.
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Very often, yes, but not always and this is also a concern of non-white, often religious, social conservatives
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Muslims have often argued this to me, for example, because of a culture in which having children and continuing family line is seen as very important in itself. They don't usually racialise this or make it unique to Muslims.
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Then they can.
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You realise I'm talking about having children?
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I see the need to perpetuate secular liberal democracy!
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And that is my focus.
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Do you see human progress (take it how you like) as a moral imperative?
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So we have an obligation to improve ourselves, but it's fine if we die out? I'm not seeing the connection here
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There isn't one. Just as every human has an obligation to care for the humans they create but not an obligation to create humans so we have an obligation to make things better for humans that exist but not to ensure that we always do.
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The suffering of individuals matters to me but the fact that they're part of the same species as me doesn't really
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Does it not? I find I do empathise with my own species more than the others, the possible exception being dogs.
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Yes but that's by extension of being able to understand them better rather than simply that they're human per se... I think.
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