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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Nov 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted William J  🐸 🐻

    I have sorted him out. I am pretty sure one is true and one is not.https://twitter.com/Wandering_Raven/status/929435827784044545 …

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    William J  🐸 🐻 @Wandering_Raven
    Replying to @johncouch_john @HPluckrose
    She's trying to sort out @jordanbpeterson on the idea of objective truth and metaphysical truth. And obviously having a hard time with it. I would suggest the JRE episode where @BretWeinstein and JBP talk about it, but she doesn't like my suggestions 😜
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      2. Benedict White‏ @BenedictMPWhite 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If you are talking about the difference between Newtonian mechanics and the story of Adam and Eve, you're talking about entirely different types of "truth". @jordanbpeterson

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @BenedictMPWhite @jordanbpeterson

        I'm denying that the latter is true at all.

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      4. Benedict White‏ @BenedictMPWhite 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @jordanbpeterson

        Ah. OK. You're wrong, but never mind.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @BenedictMPWhite @jordanbpeterson

        So postmodernists keep telling me.

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      6. Benedict White‏ @BenedictMPWhite 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @jordanbpeterson

        Post modernism is just wrong and has no foundation. Also they claim it's true in the former scientific sense rather than the theological sense.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @BenedictMPWhite @jordanbpeterson

        It has quite a lot in common with religion. I use it to study Christian narratives.https://www.academia.edu/30784957/_Challendge_to_Your_Selves_no_Sovraigntie_Aemilia_Lanyer_Saint_Monica_Christian_Feminine_Virtue_and_its_Challenge_to_the_Patriarchal_Symbolic_Order …

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      8. Benedict White‏ @BenedictMPWhite 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @jordanbpeterson

        I'd agree post modernism is a religion, but unlike other religions, it has no foundation over time.

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      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @BenedictMPWhite @jordanbpeterson

        But it calls on the same concepts and sometimes specifically cites them. See, for example, Kristeva's symbolic and semiotic and Augustine's Sapientia and Scientia or Irigaray's use of the Double Syntax to regain prelapsarian knowledge.

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      2. William J  🐸 🐻‏ @Wandering_Raven 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        This may seem like a weird question, but have you ever experimented with psychedelics? And I mean as tool for mind expansion, not a party drug?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @Wandering_Raven

        No. What would it help?

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      4. William J  🐸 🐻‏ @Wandering_Raven 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        One experience done in the traditional way (in silent darkness) will show you incredible vistas in your mind that your rational self will struggle with. It opens doors that never quite close again, and shakes the idea that we have things figured out.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @Wandering_Raven

        Ohh. I do not need this, thank you. My rational self was hard won. I have temporal lobe epilepsy which caused intense spiritual experiences and made me hyper-religious & then deeply into mystical woo. I don't think we have things figured out. I just think we should try.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. William J  🐸 🐻‏ @Wandering_Raven 11 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Ahh, then yeah, probably not for you. Was just curious.

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