I know he wouldnt call it truth, I have maintained that the entire time. A strict empiricist who rejects intangible truth would call it "non-substantiated beliefs". Peterson would agree it is not scientific fact but truth for being; the truth morality.
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Hence truth stops being objective and criticisms that Peterson denies the objectivity of truth in the same way as postmodernists are substantiated.
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He does not DENY objective fact. That immediately makes him NOT a postmodernist. He accepts science wholeheartedly and defends it all the time. He also accepts that some truths are not empirical but embedded in ideas, in stories, in literature, etc.
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Yes, he does. This doesn't make sense.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/929420602687016961 …
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If your understanding of truth includes things which are objectively true and things which are objectively false and things which are unknown to be true or false you are not a believer in objective truth in the sense in which it is meant.
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And neither are postmodernists. They also accept as true some things which are objective and some which are subjective narratives. Robert Eaglestone calls this 'the metaphysics of correspondence' & 'primordial truth.' The former is a subcategory.
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So you will then agree Peterson is indeed not a Postermodernist?
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He's not a postmodernist, no. He just has the same rationale for subjective truth being constructed in narratives.
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Morality is subjective truth, so again I think you just fail to understand the topic all together.
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No, I don't fail to understand it. I disagree that this is truth. I know that people call all kinds of subjective stuff 'truth' and 'knowledge' & therefore they deny the objective nature of truth. Includes postmodernists & Prof Peterson.
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This is the nub of the criticism. You may not like being called the denial of objective truth. Perhaps you could live with 'The denial that all forms of truth and knowledge are objective.' Either way, it is what both PoMos & JP are criticised for.
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