On the subject of what is true.
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I'm not sure what's unclear. Harris is strictly empirical and rejects non-empirical notions of truth. Peterson is empirical while accepting that non-empirical notions of truth exist.
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It seems the difference is sharper. Both accept that such "notions" exist. Harris denies they have any basis in reality, Peterson doesn't.
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That does not make sense. You can't accept non-empirical truth and then claim the concept has no basis in reality.
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You can accept that people have "notions" of truth: "The world is full of demi-gods and fairies" without those notions being empirically true.
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That's not what we're talking about. We're taking about the agreement of what is true. Harris cannot agree that there is non-empirical truth then say non-empirical truth has no basis in reality.
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Simply fixed because he wouldn't call it 'truth'. He'd say there are non-substantiated beliefs and there are truths. The postmodernists conflate these into different kinds of truths and ways of knowing & so does Peterson. It's not helpful.
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I know he wouldnt call it truth, I have maintained that the entire time. A strict empiricist who rejects intangible truth would call it "non-substantiated beliefs". Peterson would agree it is not scientific fact but truth for being; the truth morality.
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Hence truth stops being objective and criticisms that Peterson denies the objectivity of truth in the same way as postmodernists are substantiated.
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The search for truth can be conducted with objectivity. I'm not enough of a metaphysical realist to assume that truths themselves are "objective."
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We cannot be sure we ever have objective truth but we can aim for it using evidence and accept it provisionally.
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