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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @bals2thewall

      Same happened with the Catholic Church child abuse allegations. Time for a reckoning of powerful institutions which cover up abuse. But it needs to be remembered they enabled a cover-up - not normalisation of sex abuse.

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    2.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @bals2thewall

      Same fine line as "victim blaming" - must punish each transgression, but still discuss persistant social factors that are conducive to abuse

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @bals2thewall

      Yes, exactly. How much more can we as a society deplore sex crime tho? It has one of the longest sentences, its own special register, those convicted have to be separated from other violent offenders for their own safety & even an accusation can ruin a life.

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    4.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @bals2thewall

      I think we're saying same thing - we CAN'T deplore it more, so if it's still happening then just deploring is not enough. We need to talk 1/

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    5.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @HPluckrose @bals2thewall

      Abt social fabric conducive to abusers. Peterson, Shapiro etc. are right abt this - just wrong, IMO, that trad marriage would fix things 2/

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    6.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @HPluckrose @bals2thewall

      We need, esp. in US, a return to some sort of community organization b/w family & state level, to hold ppl accountable day to day.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @bals2thewall

      In what way are they not being held accountable?

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    8.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @bals2thewall

      In none of these stories were abusers stopped or slowed by anyone around them - consequences came only years later when public found out

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @bals2thewall

      Yes. They were protected by powerful institutions. I'm not sure this translates more widely when that power structure isn't there.

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    10.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @bals2thewall

      I agree. But the structure is there - powerful institutions, gov'ts, corporations, etc. are an inescapable part of our social networks.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Nov 2017
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @bals2thewall

      Yes. Maybe we don't disagree. You're just meaning to tackle the problems in society where abusers can hide, not suggesting society as a whole needs monitoring. Or the male half of it, anyway.

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        2.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear 10 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @bals2thewall

          Right, not a state thing. Like a cultural, social organization thing. Imagine if we told groups of 20-30 teenagers, "This is your peer 1/

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        3.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear 10 Nov 2017
          Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @HPluckrose @bals2thewall

          Group. It's your job - your responsibility - to look out for one another, ." How many fewer ppl would be preyed upon & suffer in isolation?

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