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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Matt Jameson‏ @RogueNotary 9 Nov 2017
      Replying to @ConceptualJames @GodDoesnt

      Ah, so really, I'm not an individual when on social media, I'm part of a hive, and I have hive responsibilities. Got it. Sounds very "liberal."

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RogueNotary @GodDoesnt

      I think it's an individual responsibility too. Everyone who takes part in a dogpile is just one person but the collective weight of it can be devastating.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Matt Jameson‏ @RogueNotary 9 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      So provide me some sort of principle for when I'm allowed to have a well-formed opinion based on past experience and strong circumstantial evidence and when I'm not.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RogueNotary @GodDoesnt

      Could you not just say 'There's strong circumstantial evidence for this and much precedent in the form of other cases.'

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @RogueNotary @GodDoesnt

      But maintain a personal commitment to presumption of innocence when literally no way for someone to defend themselves, outwardly anyway.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Matt Jameson‏ @RogueNotary 9 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      You're urging a principle of restraint in expressing an opinion, but what's the principle for when that should be applied? There is no criminal case here.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Nov 2017
      Replying to @RogueNotary @GodDoesnt

      I'm not sure what you're asking.

      1:26 PM - 9 Nov 2017
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        2. Matt Jameson‏ @RogueNotary 9 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

          What are the boundaries of this principle of not expressing a rational opinion for fear of being 1/400,000th of a dogpile? Whenever prison time is at stake? A job? Shame? Hurt feelings?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Nov 2017
          Replying to @RogueNotary @GodDoesnt

          I'm not opposing expressing rational opinions.

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        4. Matt Jameson‏ @RogueNotary 9 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

          Okay, well, if you want to put meat on the bones of your take here, go ahead, but I'm not going to keep firing shots in the dark until I have its outline.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Nov 2017
          Replying to @RogueNotary @GodDoesnt

          I'm not sure what's unclear tho. I am disagreeing that we should think statistically abt guilt going on previous cases and saying that stating what is known & unknown without assuming guilt or innocence is ideal.

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        6. Matt Jameson‏ @RogueNotary 9 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

          You're arguing against inductive reasoning. The presence or absence of characteristics of previous cases that make them reliable--multiple accusers, thorough reporting, corroboration, etc.--are what make a putative case more or less reliable.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Nov 2017
          Replying to @RogueNotary @GodDoesnt

          This would seem to be a different thing tho. In that case, it is the evidence rather than the statistics that matter, isn't it? I'm lost now.

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