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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Nov 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Geoffrey Miller

      I can feel both but the latter is the one that matters - outrage at violence against peaceful ppl, The former is an aesthetic thing.https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/927294670371045376 …

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      Geoffrey MillerVerified account @primalpoly
      Even hardened atheists can still feel reverence for churches and outrage at violence committed against worshippers. Looking at you, @wilw
      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yes, aesthetic - but also, to me, there's a powerful poignance in the energy invested in making, say medieval churches, by people who ...

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose

      ... believed, simply or otherwise - or, let's face it, many not really at all - in the theological ideas associated with it. It's like ...

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose

      ... the memory of a kindness by a parent who really, at the time, didn't understand the problem they were trying to solve, but the effort...

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    5. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose

      ... was heartfelt and serious.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone

      Yes, I think that's the aesthetic pleasure in a church. The history & the care that's gone into it & the beauty of the building.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      This is nitpicking, but what I'm talking about is probably even better expressed in a badly-made building than a high-medieval masterpiece.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose

      Still in the realm of the aesthetic, I guess. It's just that I'm not talking abt excellence of execution so much as sincerity of intention.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone

      Yes, probably. I need a bit of majesty and age and beauty to get caught up in the atmosphere of a church.

      4:08 PM - 5 Nov 2017
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        2. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Seeing, say, a v. rudimentary religious site uncovered by recent archaeology, for me, is like being handed a child's drawing ...

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        3. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose

          ... it's basically rubbish, technically speaking, but I absolutely see how much you cared about it, and will therefore keep it on my fridge!

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Friedmanzone

          Agreed, completely. It has the atmosphere, the wonder, the awe. But this is what I am calling an aesthetic rather than moral reaction.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          By the way, off-topic: is your BoI event from last weekend online? And if not, will it be?

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Friedmanzone

          Not yet but soon, hopefully!

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        7. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Cool. Wanted to get there for that day, but was struck down with a Very Bad Cold.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Friedmanzone

          It would have been great to meet you!

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        9. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 5 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Indeed! Next year, I hope. Unless you speak anywhere else in meantime. (Happy 2 LEND you my copy of "Not Saussure" - should finish by then!)

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