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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Nate in Seattle

      Because I don't think being strongly pro-free speech means that I have to allow everyone to join *my* conversation.https://twitter.com/n8r0n74/status/926595942697938945 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Nate in Seattle @n8r0n74
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      I'm not sure what this response means. I know you *can* press block. I don't agree that it's consistent w/ being (strongly) pro free speech.
      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    2. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Not *your* conversation. Anyway, I'll sign off since we seem to be going around in circles. Voluntarily 😉

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74

      Yes, *my* conversation. Those I start from *my* account. I don't seek to have them banned. And I couldn't function here if I didn't do this.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Nope. A conversation held in a public space isn't yours. A private space is different, and Twitter provides protected accounts, DMs for that

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74

      Well, I think it is & that will be the difference. I also think people have the right not to include me in what they choose to tweet too.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Dave Bromage‏ @davebromage 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @n8r0n74

      Difference here is blocking v trying to get account deactivated. The first = I don't want to listen to your shit. It isn't anti free speech.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @davebromage @n8r0n74

      Also, I don't want any dealings with you at all. Also, quite acceptable.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @davebromage

      Not "I don't want any dealings w/ you at all *in public*". Not for you to decide.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74 @davebromage

      Yes, it is! Who else gets to decide who I have dealings with on social media if not me?!

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @davebromage

      Twitter. It's *their* forum, not yours. Again, protected account is an option they support. As are DMs.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74 @davebromage

      But they decide to give me a block button so I can decide who does & doesn't have access to me.

      5:50 PM - 3 Nov 2017
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        2. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @davebromage

          I think we've been over this pt, too. The original thread was about whether using it in that way is consistent w/ being pro free speech.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @n8r0n74 @davebromage

          Yes but then you said Twitter got to decide. I support free speech by encouraging all ideas to be expressed in my conversations.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I've honestly lost the thread here. Again, b/c I can't scroll up and see what you're referring to.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @n8r0n74

          I can. I said 'Who gets to decide who I have dealings with' and you said 'Twitter.' So I pointed out Twitter lets me decide.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Ah, yes, thank you. I don't think that's inconsistent w/ what I've said. TBC, if Twitter bans, that may be anti-free-speech, too.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @n8r0n74

          That would be, yes. Because that stops the person from speaking on Twitter and also others from hearing them. Me, opting myself out, doesn't

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          It does prevent them in speaking in threads that you've started (and are RTd), which we seem to disagree on, regarding *ownership*.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @n8r0n74

          Yes. My intellectual property & I will withhold them as I see fit. Of course, people can find a way round this but not on my threads

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Dave Bromage‏ @davebromage 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @n8r0n74

          Block, mute, protected acc, DM are all tools available for Twitter users. Semantics to say one is anti free speech.

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        3. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @davebromage

          No. Not semantics. They all work in different ways. The last 3 are not exploiting public space w/o allowing others to join.

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