But what if we are, on average? More neurotic, easier to intimidate, less willing to stand up for ourselves. I'm beginning to consider it. 
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Replying to @PorgyGeorgy @HPluckrose
I consider it lots too, but as a product of our raising, not our biology. And Helen's outright rejection of the premise is exactly the fix.
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Replying to @KatMullaly @HPluckrose
I was scolded whenever I didn't act more lady like" And bullying in school by boys my age and older didn't change me either, on the contrary
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Replying to @PorgyGeorgy @HPluckrose
Wait... being scolded when not acting lady-like, is exactly what I'm talking about. That's lessons in limitation!
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Replying to @KatMullaly @HPluckrose
But my point is it *didn't* stop me from fighting with boys. Or being more assertive. It meant nothing to me. I was just doing my thing.
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Replying to @PorgyGeorgy @HPluckrose
And that's great -- for you. But when talking women in general, most are more the things you noted earlier, esp when push comes to shove.
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Wasn't that the basis of your wondering about it in the first place? So... why? Nature or nurture? I firmly believe it's the latter. No...
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Replying to @KatMullaly @HPluckrose
I didn't wonder on the cause. It was only a realization that maybe most women won't stand up for themselves. And I doubt it's nurture.
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Replying to @PorgyGeorgy @HPluckrose
I agree, many (most!) won't. But I respectfully disagree about the potential cause. I think the strongest, most self-confident among us...
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... were "raised like boys", if one investigates. Absolutely, bio differences twixt sexes, but not in this, I believe.
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But it's true of the other apes too. And panculturally. Males genuinely are more aggressive. Females more conciliatory.
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