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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Oct 2017
      Replying to @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

      No. It's from 'The Estate of Marriage' (1522) http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/misc/marriage/martin-luther-estate-of-marriage.pdf …

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    2. Alex Cheung‏ @greatsave7 31 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

      If context mattered, please read this: http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.ca/2010/04/luther-if-women-wear-themselves-out-in.html …

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Oct 2017
      Replying to @greatsave7 @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

      I know the context. It's there next to the rest of it. Women are made to have children. Its better for them to do that & die than not do it.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @greatsave7 and

      Obviously because they thrive better if they obey God's command to be fruitful & if it actually kills them, doesn't matter, coz heaven.

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    5. Alex Cheung‏ @greatsave7 31 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

      God or not, heaven or not, probably better to do something fulfilling even if it kills you, than not and live a long, less-fulfilling life.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Oct 2017
      Replying to @greatsave7 @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

      But he didn't say 'Better to do something fulfilling even if kills you rather than live long, less-fulfilling life.'

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @greatsave7 and

      He said having babies was the purpose for which women exist.

      2:04 PM - 31 Oct 2017
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        2. Alex Cheung‏ @greatsave7 31 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

          Um. If women aren't going to bear human children, I don't know who else is going to do it. So, like, survival of species? Biology?

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        3. Alex Cheung‏ @greatsave7 31 Oct 2017
          Replying to @greatsave7 @HPluckrose and

          So, you read it as demeaning, I read it as kind of an obvious fact. To each their own.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Oct 2017
          Replying to @greatsave7 @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

          Yeah. I choose not to have child after child until I wear myself out & die. And my job & fulfilment is as a writer.

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        5. Alex Cheung‏ @greatsave7 31 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

          I don't know how you read an argument against celibacy as advocating for women to "have tons of children until they die from it".

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Oct 2017
          Replying to @greatsave7 @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

          I'm reading an argument saying that it doesn't matter if women wear themselves out & die from having children as saying that.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @greatsave7 and

          If he'd said 'It's better to have some children than not have any' this would be a different matter. Women shld still be able to say no tho.

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        8. Alex Cheung‏ @greatsave7 1 Nov 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

          Do also understand that mortality rates related to both childbirth and childhood were much higher than today. Again, context.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 1 Nov 2017
          Replying to @greatsave7 @brian_carnell @GodDoesnt

          Strangely, I do. This is my period of study. That obviously makes it fine! Not objectionable at all!

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