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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74

      That;s my point. That's why 'If you can't do it to adults, you shouldn't be able to do it to kids' doesn't work. Need better rationale.

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    2. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I don't think consistency is bad rationale. I think it's great rationale. Politically, tho, I wouldn't use those words you quoted.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74

      So, in this case, would you say kids didn't have to study maths or adults did?

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    4. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I think I already said that this analogy isn't an appropriate one for this issue.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74

      Then what do you mean about being consistent? Not in relation to consistency between the way we treat adults & children?

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    6. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Go back to the toy example (not the maths one). I think it's consistent to believe taking others' possessions is not something we should do.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74

      How would you discipline a child in a way consistent with the way you would treat an adult?

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    8. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Take away privileges. That might be a month of cellphone *service* (if I pay). Could be rides to friends' houses.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74

      Right! And you could also do that to an adult, I suppose, if they were dependent on your help.

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    10. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Absolutely. If I'm offering to carpool w/ a coworker, giving them rides is not something they have a right to. I can withdraw at any time.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Oct 2017
      Replying to @n8r0n74

      OK, so you can punish your friends or wife in the same way as long as you have some hold over them.

      6:22 PM - 30 Oct 2017
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        1. Nate in Seattle‏ @n8r0n74 30 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Right. Except that in my case, it's my wife that has a hold over me. I'm pretty powerless against her charm!

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