No, I don't think so. I think stopping believing in things that aren't true is progress in itself & also facilitates social progress.https://twitter.com/AkivaMCohen/status/923145407034732544 …
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Yes, but as I said, that then just collapses the argument into "is it true"
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Replying to @AkivaMCohen
Yes. As I said, I think this is a valid measure of progress. We progress when we become less wrong.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Sure. But that's not a distinct argument. And it's also an argument *for* adopting religious Judaism, depending on your premises ;)
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Replying to @AkivaMCohen @HPluckrose
I'm being a bit tongue in cheek, but there's a point here, too; "it's progress because your religion is wrong" is an argument that only
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Replying to @AkivaMCohen @HPluckrose
Makes sense to someone who is already not religious. It carries no persuasive power whatsoever when addressed to a religious person
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Replying to @AkivaMCohen
Of course. I am not saying that religious people will agree with me. They're not going to see the decrease in religion as progress.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
right. So that's not a "defense" of the claim so much as a restatement of it. As a religious person myself, I was wondering if there was
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Replying to @AkivaMCohen @HPluckrose
a distinct defense beyond "because you're wrong" that you had in mind
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No, not really. I think of a move away from religion to non-religion as progress because I think religious claims are factually wrong.
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