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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Oct 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Akiva Cohen

    No, I don't think so. I think stopping believing in things that aren't true is progress in itself & also facilitates social progress.https://twitter.com/AkivaMCohen/status/923145407034732544 …

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    Akiva Cohen @AkivaMCohen
    Replying to @AkivaMCohen @HPluckrose
    and 2) the argument that religion isn't true seems to be distinct from "abandoning religion = progress"
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      2. Akiva Cohen‏ @AkivaMCohen 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yes, but as I said, that then just collapses the argument into "is it true"

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @AkivaMCohen

        Yes. As I said, I think this is a valid measure of progress. We progress when we become less wrong.

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      4. HateTwits‏ @tblbadash 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @AkivaMCohen

        How do you measure this? Without a destination in mind how do you measure positive movement against negative? Change isn't always good.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @tblbadash @AkivaMCohen

        In that case, I was talking about factual accuracy as a measure. Having more of that.

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      6. HateTwits‏ @tblbadash 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @AkivaMCohen

        Pretty hard to apply to religion generally.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @tblbadash @AkivaMCohen

        Well, yes. Disbelieving in them seems the most likely to be accurate.

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      8. HateTwits‏ @tblbadash 26 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @AkivaMCohen

        But by doing this we are abandoning the idea of becoming less wrong and just falling back on feelings.pic.twitter.com/sOlDzqAoYV

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      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 26 Oct 2017
        Replying to @tblbadash @AkivaMCohen

        What? Going with the probabilities and evidence is the opposite of this.

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      2. HateTwits‏ @tblbadash 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Science cannot challenge religion. It doesn't have the right tools. We are bound by the limits of our minds & need something to believe in.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @tblbadash

        It's a different kind of thing. I am currently working on something about our need for cohesive, satisfying narratives.

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      4. HateTwits‏ @tblbadash 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Do tell.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Oct 2017
        Replying to @tblbadash

        Not in tweets. Anyway, I need to gather my thoughts and clarify my argument.

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      6. HateTwits‏ @tblbadash 26 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Fine.pic.twitter.com/mqfdcTAO7x

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