I'm reading old arguments against women's suffrage. They're *exactly* the same things people say now when I call for kids' voting rights.
What do you think should be the benchmark for having adult responsibilities? My 13 yr old could not function mentally as an adult.
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I'm talking about the right to vote, not blanket "adult responsibilities." Specific rights merit specific conversations. /1
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But a short answer is: here's where I set the voting line in 2014.https://www.thedailybeast.com/paying-taxes-and-going-to-jail-like-adults-teens-deserve-the-right-to-vote-too …
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We're working on getting her to keep her room tidy, keep on top of her homework & understand why she needs to get enough sleep.
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Sounds exactly like some 30-somethings I know!

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(In all seriousness, you've also just made an argument for disenfranchising some senior citizens. Which I'm sure neither of us wants.)
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I'm not making that argument. If you can prove, against all the evidence that children have the cognitive maturity to vote, go for it.
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Wait -- I don't think *anyone* should have to pass a state competency test to vote. You're the one who implied that.

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OK, don't prove it then. But I don't think you'll convince many unless you do. Especially if they have children.
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Oh, you're absolutely right there! I definitely won't convince many. People love to cling to familiar social structures. Change is slowww.
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