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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Oct 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Areo

    I don't disagree much with Ben here.We can acknowledge the fact that sex offenders are mostly male AND that men are mostly not sex offendershttps://twitter.com/AreoMagazine/status/922069218572451840 …

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    The Problem With Men and Sexual Assault | @Bdsixsmith https://areomagazine.com/2017/10/22/the-problem-with-men-and-sexual-assault/ …
    10:16 AM - 22 Oct 2017
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      2. Mike‏ @citation_needed 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        it's the weakest thing I've ever read from him. Not impressed at all.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @citation_needed

        Well, I stand by my argument, obviously, but I don't think we disagree much on the key points he sees us as disagreeing on.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Mike‏ @citation_needed 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It was this that got me. I commented on the article showing how to answer that question. Simply quoting the number sans context…pic.twitter.com/iJUUxqZhbP

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Mike‏ @citation_needed 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @citation_needed @HPluckrose

        …well, I like Ben, so I don't want to say "basically dishonest", but it is.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @citation_needed

        Ah, I see it. Yes, it needs context. 'Rare' is very subjective.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Mike‏ @citation_needed 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        simply giving the rate per 100,000 people, the standard for looking at the rarity of crime, would've addressed that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @citation_needed

        Yes, OK.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. End of conversation
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      2. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Sigh it doesn't matter just how many angels dance on the head of a pin, it matters if one tries to ram the pin into you. Even one.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @ExcludedMuddle

        To the individual, yes. But statistics matter when looking at the scale of a problem within a group.

        1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
      4. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If the goal state is "there are no sex predators" then knowing it's primarily men might help but knowing the total number? Enh not so much.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @ExcludedMuddle

        Well, sure. Not sure how this relates.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      6. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If even one assault is too many to tolerate, then we should identify solutions. You seem instead concerned with the reputations of groups.

        5 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      8. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Lucama221 @HPluckrose

        Though that gives men a motivation to self-police and clear their reputation, something not done with Harvey Weinstein apparently.

        4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Clare‏ @PlanetClare_ 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But isn't that a given? Does it need to be said every time women talk about SV? It gets a bit tiresome and stifles the discussion.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @PlanetClare_

        This wasn't women talking about SV. This was specifically a discussion about whether to fear/blame all men for it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Clare‏ @PlanetClare_ 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Fair enough, but when it happens in general I find it annoying. Lol.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Aaron Gross‏ @Rongwrong_ 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You may not disagree with him but he disagrees with you You comparison of assaults to plane crashes ignores the fact that the low rate of...

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Rongwrong_

        Well, I wasn't comparing plane crashes and violent crime on grounds of precautions takeable.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      4. Aaron Gross‏ @Rongwrong_ 22 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I understand that The point is that the annual rate of sexual assaults or whatever is a bad indicator of risk As opposed to plane crash rate

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      5. End of conversation

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