But I want to hear them. If these are really awful ideas, I want to be able to address them as expressed. Why make them harder to counter?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis and
Then go hear them in a small, ticketed venue. When speakers choose to make their point in the public square, they invite challenge.
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Replying to @Christn077 @NAChristakis and
Yes. That's what I'd want to do. But no-one can challenge them if they can't hear them, can they? Wasted opportunity.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and
The history of effective free expression is often passionate/loud: - Boston Tea Party - modern Tea Party - Congress town halls (2009, 2017)
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Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and
I'm not suggesting otherwise. We have a long history of yelling over ideas we don't like rather than engaging them. Let's do better.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and
Speech has 2 roles: - deliberation (Senate at best, courts, universities) - engaged/passionate/organizing (effective protests, universities)
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Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and
Speech has many roles.I support ppl's right to shout &scream abt ideas they don't like as long as they don't prevent me from discussing them
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and
Are we really at risk of ideas not being discussed in US or UK? If so, seems real cause is power of elites/classes with historical power.
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Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and
Yes. Certain ideas get shouted down, censored, punished. Yes, there is evidence that this is coming from elite universities.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and
Maybe those ideas are simply losing in the free market of ideas. And ideas like intersectionality are winning.
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And we're imagining the obstructive protests, no platforming, calls for firing, justification of violence?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and
Not imagining...overemphasizing. Violence has been rare. Effective protests must somewhat obstruct. Limiting protest = bigger threat.
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