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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017

    Give me your best defences of postmodernism. Tell me why it isn't undermining our respect for truth, science, evidence, reason, consistency.

    8:32 AM - 20 Oct 2017
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      2. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It only undermines trust, not respect.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @fronxer

        Yay! You're still with me. I thought you might have stopped talking to me by now. Could you say a bit more about that?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I was just busy with work 🙄

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @fronxer

        Priorities, dear Fronx!

        0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Monica Carvalho‏ @mcarvalho 23 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        They're undermined by the way they have been used to justify unfair reasons. Where's ethics in such a list? Removed as usual.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Oct 2017
        Replying to @mcarvalho

        It's the relationship with truth and reason, I'm thinking about.

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      2. ヾ(。ꏿ﹏ꏿ)ノ゙‏ @VastScenario 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Why would a defense of postmodernism need to answer your claim of it undermining our respect? That seems like an appeal to consequence.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @VastScenario

        That is what I am looking for defences of. The position that PoMo does not undermine those things.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. ヾ(。ꏿ﹏ꏿ)ノ゙‏ @VastScenario 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Aha, ok. Sadly, defending that position does not sound as fun as embracing it. :/

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      2. inanis‏ @AnHonestNobody 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Postmodernism as I understood it decades ago was about the limits of our ability to know things, constricted as we are by language.

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      3. inanis‏ @AnHonestNobody 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @AnHonestNobody @HPluckrose

        This can be useful in evaluating whether what we're asking are valid questions. For example: Why are unicorns hollow?

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      4. inanis‏ @AnHonestNobody 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @AnHonestNobody @HPluckrose

        It's a grammatically correct sentence, articulates a clear thought...but the question is nonsense! What if other questions unobviously are?

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      5. inanis‏ @AnHonestNobody 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @AnHonestNobody @HPluckrose

        But from that observation that we are limited by language, "academics" have extrapolated some really awful ideas.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      6. inanis‏ @AnHonestNobody 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @AnHonestNobody @HPluckrose

        The idea that everything is subjective and meaning is always indefinite is the absolute worst sentiment that ever sprang from it.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      7.  🇺🇲SagesOfAges 🇵🇷 #GetYourMindRight‏ @ages_sages 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @AnHonestNobody @HPluckrose

        As a method of introspection or delivery of a context for rendering an additional perspective it is fine, but weaponizing it is disgusting.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. End of conversation
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      2. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Waiting for Godot. The breakup of standard form and expectation allows us to analyze why structure works and what our unspoken norms do to

        4 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Nathan Meffert‏ @nmeffert 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @B_Y_3 @HPluckrose

        Strong point. Deconstruction works as an analytical tool, but I think you have to eventually integrate the "form" again to gain anything.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @nmeffert @HPluckrose

        100%. Post modernism, properly applied, is a means and not an end. That’s why post modern plays are seldom commercial successes

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      5. Nathan Meffert‏ @nmeffert 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @B_Y_3 @HPluckrose

        This is the incontrovertible proof in my opinion. You nailed it. The market doesn't reward people's experimentation.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @nmeffert @HPluckrose

        It does, but only to a certain extent. And the limitations are a necessary function of the form of postmodernism. I.e. rubber MUST meet road

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @B_Y_3 @nmeffert @HPluckrose

        Eventually or what we’re talking about is a tire in name only

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