Question is where to draw line. California Supreme Ct said: "heckling, interrupting, harsh questioning, and booing" can advance 1st Amnd.
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Replying to @stevenjshirley @HPluckrose and
Those are all fine - with proviso that heckling is not so severe or prolonged as to prevent speaker from speaking of others from hearing.
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Replying to @NAChristakis @stevenjshirley and
The heckler's veto is not a relevant concept if the speaker can take the stage without fear for their safety-even if they strain to be heard
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Replying to @Christn077 @NAChristakis and
But I want to hear them. If these are really awful ideas, I want to be able to address them as expressed. Why make them harder to counter?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis and
Then go hear them in a small, ticketed venue. When speakers choose to make their point in the public square, they invite challenge.
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Replying to @Christn077 @NAChristakis and
Yes. That's what I'd want to do. But no-one can challenge them if they can't hear them, can they? Wasted opportunity.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and
The history of effective free expression is often passionate/loud: - Boston Tea Party - modern Tea Party - Congress town halls (2009, 2017)
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Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and
I'm not suggesting otherwise. We have a long history of yelling over ideas we don't like rather than engaging them. Let's do better.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and
Speech has 2 roles: - deliberation (Senate at best, courts, universities) - engaged/passionate/organizing (effective protests, universities)
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Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and
Speech has many roles.I support ppl's right to shout &scream abt ideas they don't like as long as they don't prevent me from discussing them
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The aim of obstructive protests is often to prevent other people from hearing ideas & this is censorship. Don't decide how others respond.
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