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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @GodDoesnt and

      That's about subjective experience. We all know that exists.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

      The point is how hard it is to access perspectives. Have you thought "like a bat" lately? As a country we fail when cannot do that well.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @GodDoesnt and

      I recommend working to reduce censorship in your universities as a first step.Then you can access many more whilst learning to evaluate them

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and

      How do we have a censorship problem at universities? Loud, uncomfortable protests are not censorship.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Nicholas A. Christakis‏ @NAChristakis 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @HPluckrose and

      Yes, if they're a "heckler's veto." I strongly support protest. But that does not involve preventing others from hearing a chosen speaker

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    6. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @NAChristakis @HPluckrose and

      Question is where to draw line. California Supreme Ct said: "heckling, interrupting, harsh questioning, and booing" can advance 1st Amnd.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Nicholas A. Christakis‏ @NAChristakis 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @HPluckrose and

      Those are all fine - with proviso that heckling is not so severe or prolonged as to prevent speaker from speaking of others from hearing.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @NAChristakis @stevenjshirley and

      The heckler's veto is not a relevant concept if the speaker can take the stage without fear for their safety-even if they strain to be heard

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @Christn077 @NAChristakis and

      But I want to hear them. If these are really awful ideas, I want to be able to address them as expressed. Why make them harder to counter?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 19 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis and

      Then go hear them in a small, ticketed venue. When speakers choose to make their point in the public square, they invite challenge.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017
      Replying to @Christn077 @NAChristakis and

      Yes. That's what I'd want to do. But no-one can challenge them if they can't hear them, can they? Wasted opportunity.

      2:48 AM - 20 Oct 2017
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        2. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and

          The history of effective free expression is often passionate/loud: - Boston Tea Party - modern Tea Party - Congress town halls (2009, 2017)

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and

          I'm not suggesting otherwise. We have a long history of yelling over ideas we don't like rather than engaging them. Let's do better.

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        4. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and

          Speech has 2 roles: - deliberation (Senate at best, courts, universities) - engaged/passionate/organizing (effective protests, universities)

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and

          Speech has many roles.I support ppl's right to shout &scream abt ideas they don't like as long as they don't prevent me from discussing them

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and

          Are we really at risk of ideas not being discussed in US or UK? If so, seems real cause is power of elites/classes with historical power.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and

          Yes. Certain ideas get shouted down, censored, punished. Yes, there is evidence that this is coming from elite universities.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Christn077 and

          Maybe those ideas are simply losing in the free market of ideas. And ideas like intersectionality are winning.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Oct 2017
          Replying to @stevenjshirley @Christn077 and

          And we're imagining the obstructive protests, no platforming, calls for firing, justification of violence?

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