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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @NAChristakis and

      No, it's progressed on a platform of 'apply your own values to your own life & leave other people alone' accompanied by the right to do that

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis and

      MLK would disagree. He called out "the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace..."

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @NAChristakis and

      That doesn't disagree. It doesn't even relate. You keep doing that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis and

      You said: "apply your own values to your own life..." This is exactly what opponents of progress (e.g., MLK's white moderates) have said.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @NAChristakis and

      That doesn't make any sense. The right to live as you see fit underlies religious freedom, LGBT rights and reproductive freedom.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis and

      You act like ideals work in a vacuum. People "living their own values" can also mean discrimination and slavery.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @NAChristakis and

      No, it can't because the other part of that is 'not impacting anybody else's'. That prevents others living their own values, doesn't it?

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    8. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis and

      Again ideals in a vacuum. Reality is power dynamics.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @NAChristakis and

      What does that mean? That you'd prevent people from living according to their own values in case they indirectly impact others?

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    10. Steve Shirley‏ @stevenjshirley 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis and

      Justice means we must consider others. Yes, there are limits to freedom if we want both a free and just society.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @stevenjshirley @NAChristakis and

      In our own lives? My Muslim neighbour believes in traditional gender roles & that homosexuality is a sin. Shld she lose freedom of religion?

      6:37 PM - 18 Oct 2017
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