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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @Kmnickols

      Do you seriously believe Nazis were just trying to improve society? (Hint. You'll struggle less if you look at what people actually say)

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    2. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Why would I believe that?

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @Kmnickols

      So we do need evidence to assume people believe certain things and accuse them of doing certain things? Excellent.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Kmnickols

      You cant reasonably take something someone says &ask them why they mean something horrible not indicated by it. Why isn't this clear to you?

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    5. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I did ask! Why isn't that clear to you?

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @Kmnickols

      It is clear to me that you asked why I believe something you have no reason to think I believe. That's the problem, & stop supporting Trump

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      So now you're doing the same thing you just accused me of having done? Not sure you can read if you think I support Trump....

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @Kmnickols

      Yes, exactly! See why it doesn't work now? U need to read what I say & respond to that, not make shit up. Conversation doesn't work that way

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    9. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      You arguing that "everything" constitutes as abuse these days IS perpetuating rape culture. Some light reading 4 u: http://www.southernct.edu/sexual-misconduct/facts.html …

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @Kmnickols

      So make that argument. Show how criticising trivialising of sexual harassment by calling normal interaction that perpetuates rape culture

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Kmnickols

      You've missed several steps but I'm willing to be convinced.I currently think not trivialising sexual harassment is better for victims of it

      9:29 AM - 10 Oct 2017
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        2. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Here's the problem, sexual harassment is a very grey area. How much trivializing of sexual harassment do u think actually occurs?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @Kmnickols

          A lot! It's become a regular part of feminism. An unwanted compliment, invitation, rude joke all get called sexual harassment.

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        4. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          @lizlozC the word here is harassment, not assault

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @Kmnickols

          OK, well still be charitable about that. It becomes harassment if you say sexual comments directed at you are unwanted and it doesn't stop.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Lizzy‏ @lizlozlizloz 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Kmnickols

          This is why language is so important. Being flippant when making accusations is destructive. I do think feminism needs more precision.

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        2. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Thr wd be nothing wrong w/ critiquing the trivializing it if victim blaming&not believing womn weren't such a large + destructive phenomenon

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @Kmnickols

          Explain how normalising calling things sexual harassment that aren't sexual harassment will make genuine victims more likely to be believed.

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        2. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I appreciate your argument but in a culture where women are systematically assaulted/harassed, I don't think it holds.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @Kmnickols

          Even if we did have that culture (we don't) how does its existence mean that making lots of false claims of it will help women's credibility

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        4. Katherine Nickols‏ @Kmnickols 10 Oct 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          My argument is that i don't think there are lots of false claims. we live in different societies, with different views of women

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