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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Molly

    But this is the problem with feminist women saying men are bad for explaining things, joking, sitting, finding women attractive, existinghttps://twitter.com/Molly_Kats/status/917536472353435648 …

    Helen Pluckrose added,

    Molly @Molly_Kats
    Women: This man is bad Men: You’re overreacting Women: Here’s proof Men: Why didn’t you tell us earlier, this is your fault
    3:38 AM - 10 Oct 2017
    • 70 Retweets
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    5 replies 70 retweets 244 likes
      1. New conversation
      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017

        If everything is evidence of rape culture, it becomes very difficult for women finding selves in danger to be heard.

        1 reply 15 retweets 79 likes
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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017

        'I'm being sexually harassed' can now mean anything from being cornered & having a hand forced up your skirt to being asked out for coffee.

        7 replies 24 retweets 110 likes
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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017

        My friend recently ashamed to have been sceptical of a stranger who approached her & asked for help coz a man was harassing her but he was.

        1 reply 2 retweets 22 likes
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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017

        And she came from a rape culture where she was sexually assaulted several times. But her first thought was 'Is this just a drama.'

        1 reply 2 retweets 19 likes
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      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017

        Ppl can be wrongly accused of over-reacting. Same friend accused of it for objecting to a man who'd raped her as a child joining her work.

        1 reply 2 retweets 15 likes
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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017

        By her *mother* among others. But employer took it seriously tho case had not had enough evidence to proceed & confronted him. He went away

        3 replies 2 retweets 12 likes
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      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017

        But there is also a huge amount of overreacting. Victims of sexual assault are best served by consistency & reasonableness in definitions.

        0 replies 3 retweets 35 likes
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      9. End of conversation
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      2. Anna Moomaw‏ @anna_moomaw 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You've never had a conversation like this before, I take it. I have. It's not explaining things, a joke, whatever. It's sexist.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @anna_moomaw

        My point is that many conversations start 'This man is bad' & the justification for this can be reasonable or not & this harms victims.

        1 reply 2 retweets 24 likes
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      5. Beans Morocco‏ @neiltwit 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Nvenice2 @HPluckrose @anna_moomaw

        If you have a specific objection let's hear it.

        2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Nvenice2 @neiltwit @anna_moomaw

        That isn't happening here tho, is it?

        1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
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      9. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Nvenice2 @HPluckrose and

        Nope. She said if you say a man is evil for sitting wrong on the tube ppl won't take you seriously when he's REALLY evil (eg a harasser).

        3 replies 2 retweets 35 likes
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      2. Peter Kolding‏ @pkolding 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        People should understand that being considered guilty until proven guilty does not incentivize innocent behaviour.

        1 reply 4 retweets 17 likes
      3.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @pkolding @HPluckrose

        Considering the ever growing list of male feminists found guilty of the very thing they rail against, it seems to me they have a vested...

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Banned_Ali @pkolding @HPluckrose

        .. interest in devaluing terms like 'sexual assault', as well as spreading the blame onto "men" rather than individual rapists and abusers.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Peter Kolding‏ @pkolding 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose

        I think it a mistake to divide feminist supporters into male and female. There are champagne feminists, and puritans. Both are malevolent.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @pkolding @HPluckrose

        I am in no way trying to excuse or ignore the various problems with all the other feminists by pointing out that there is a pattern of..

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Banned_Ali @pkolding @HPluckrose

        .. decidedly un-feminist sexual behaviour among self-proclaimed feminist allies.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Peter Kolding‏ @pkolding 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose

        Sexual behaviour only becomes "un-feminist" when it is revealed to the public. The same applies with all cults.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 10 Oct 2017
        Replying to @pkolding @HPluckrose

        So long as they say the right thing in public it doesn't really matter what they do in private.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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